Just a thought...Socratic tradition forces me to say, Define that term first, then discuss it (or ban discussion of it). It's a pretty vague term, after all, and lotsa 'racing' I see is neither inherently dangerous nor stupid, depending on the speeds involved and the location. I know plenty of near-deserted rural roads w/50mph limits I could cheerfully do 0-60 runs on and never feel like a public menace. I will agree that many owners of faster cars are absolute idiots behind the wheel and deserve to get nailed to a tree, but blanket condemnation isn't right either, I think. I do appreciate the BB owner/moderator's position....very tricky position to be in.


98 CSVT, basic mod's, my slowest car yet but still faster than the wife's Talon Tsi AWD. Not by much, though. Now if I could get the back wheels to do something....