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I want the 2 minutes of my life back after reading this.

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just get one of these . End of story.

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Everyone has pretty much already said what I would say about this post.


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Come on, the post isnt that bad. I thought it to be kind of funny actually, and he made some good points. I have the Escort Passport 8500, and it works like a charm.


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Phantom jammers are just boxes with LEDs and a plug on them. Laser jammers do work but only if the laser is targeted where the jammer is. Many courts won't let you off as easily as the boss says.


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The majority of the time, cops give leeway of 5-10 over unless you are driving wreckless and swerving in and out of traffic, in which case, you should get a ticket.


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Okay, I don't think that any of us can admit that at one point or another we haven't broken the speed limit. And I'm sure a great number of us have also experienced the wrath of our local pigs and have been written up a speeding ticket. Speeding and not getting caught is a topic that I feel very passionate about, so I will share with you some of my opinions on how to not get caught.

1) You only get speeding tickets on freeways/interstates/highways if you are not being careful. a) slow down before going by an underpass b) if you are going up a slight incline and can't see over the horizon slow down until you have leveled out or until your line of sight is further c) slow down before passing any gaps in the barrier between the lanes (what is that called again???).

2) When driving in town, very cautious during commuter hours and evenings. Be VERY cautious on Friday and Saturday nights. Don't take any big risks ecspecially in towns you are not familiar with. If you are in an out-of-state location, also be careful, because cops will target you. It's best to take it easy in town and not triple the speed limit to pass the Dodge Caravan before the road merges 500 feet ahead. A safe time to speed is during church on Sunday morning.

3) GET A RADAR DETECTOR/JAMMER!!! Anyone who can sleep well after spending 300 dollars on custom Ford racing floor mats (which I'm sure some of you are guilty of wink ), should be able to cough up 60-200 dollars for a good radar detector by Cobra or Viper. If you are willing to spend in the 300 dollar neighborhood, get the new Phantom II. It detects and jams radar of many sorts, and the manufactuer will even pay for any speeding tickets you get in the first year of owning it. But as I said, even a cheaper detector like a Cobra for 60 bucks will keep you safe.

4) If you pass a moving cop on the road and think he is gonna go after you, turn off the road you are on as soon as you can. Don't hesitate for him to turn his lights on. Go to some little off street, turn off your car and headlights if they are on and just keep it cool for a few minutes. Avoid driving on that same road if possible for at least an hour or so. Remember, if the cop hasn't turned on his lights or made it clear that he is following you, it's not illegal to take a detour.

5) If you get caught, don't try to rationalize your speeding. You can't. Just admit that you were speeding and be polite about it. Don't act nervous or angry. I've gotten out of tickets for going close to 20 over in a 25 this way. If you do get ticketed, DO challenge it in court. First time offenders almost always get off with just a drivers ed class, and nothing goes to your insurance. I had a friend get out of a 95 in a 55 ticket by going to court. All he had to do was write an apology letter.

Those are just some things I've kind of picked up from my years as a fast driver. Please share advice with me or your strategies. I'm all about not getting pulled over. Remember, cops are not our friends. They are different from you and me. The are the secret police of East Germany, the Gestapos of the Nazi empire, the...well you get the point. If we weren't supposed to speed, they wouldn't have given us small sedans with V6's in them. Good luck smile
It is not my intention to flame you, but you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! You are all of eighteen years old! What the hell can you possibly know about speeding, radar detector use, and how to use them effectively together? You crack me up! I would love to see your face in court when the judge throws the book at your for vehicular manslaughter when you kill someone with your reckless speeding and shameful attitude. Slow down and live Dude before some "pig" gets to exercise his trigger finger on you. It is clear to everyone you don't respect the law or policemen. Pity the fool!


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I speed on the interstate. I have gotten 2 tickets and paid them both, no questions. (The 3rd one, my wife was taken the hospital and I was trying to get over there. Cop was cool and didn't show for the hearing like he told me at the scene. After that, and one gall bladder removal later, all is well.) Do the crime, do the time. I was guilty and I paid. Now, on to the fun:
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1) You only get speeding tickets on freeways/interstates/highways if you are not being careful. a) slow down before going by an underpass b) if you are going up a slight incline and can't see over the horizon slow down until you have leveled out or until your line of sight is further c) slow down before passing any gaps in the barrier between the lanes (what is that called again???).
Actually true. Anyone on the interstate should be driving carefully anyway, especially if travelling above the prevailing traffic speed. Part of that is being aware of what is going on down the road. If you can't see down the road - slow down, not just to save a speeding ticket but maybe to save a life.
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2) When driving in town, very cautious during commuter hours and evenings. Be VERY cautious on Friday and Saturday nights. Don't take any big risks ecspecially in towns you are not familiar with. If you are in an out-of-state location, also be careful, because cops will target you. It's best to take it easy in town and not triple the speed limit to pass the Dodge Caravan before the road merges 500 feet ahead. A safe time to speed is during church on Sunday morning.

There is some good advice in here. You should always be careful when driving in unfamiliar environments. You should always be careful when driving in a residential area or a commercial area with pedestrians. (Drive up the main drag in town here at noon and it's like being the cars in Frogger.) I can't agree with the contention that there is ever a safe time to speed in town. You never know when little Jimmy DLK is going to jump out at you, or grandma is going to step out from between parked cars to get to church.
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3) GET A RADAR DETECTOR/JAMMER!!! Anyone who can sleep well after spending 300 dollars on custom Ford racing floor mats (which I'm sure some of you are guilty of wink ), should be able to cough up 60-200 dollars for a good radar detector by Cobra or Viper. If you are willing to spend in the 300 dollar neighborhood, get the new Phantom II. It detects and jams radar of many sorts, and the manufactuer will even pay for any speeding tickets you get in the first year of owning it. But as I said, even a cheaper detector like a Cobra for 60 bucks will keep you safe.

Got my first two tickets with one of those cheapo detectors. A radar detector is a tool, not a license to speed. A smart careful driver going 75/55 will get less tickets in the long run than a stupid careless driver with a detector doing the same speed (in the long run). I have received no tickets since I bought a better detector, and some of that is to blame on wisdom and added care.

Oh yeah, most (if not all) jammers are garbage, and can actually get you a worse ticket than speeding (interference with an officer's official duty or something like that). And don't think that the radar operator won't know something is wrong - he's a better visual approximator of your speed than you think and will realize something funny is going on when the gun registers an error. I also thought that the "pay your speeding ticket" thing is limited as well.

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4) If you pass a moving cop on the road and think he is gonna go after you, turn off the road you are on as soon as you can. Don't hesitate for him to turn his lights on. Go to some little off street, turn off your car and headlights if they are on and just keep it cool for a few minutes. Avoid driving on that same road if possible for at least an hour or so. Remember, if the cop hasn't turned on his lights or made it clear that he is following you, it's not illegal to take a detour.
Um, in PA, turning your headlights off to avoid police detection (doesn't matter if you turn off the car) is punishable by a license suspension (forget how long). Don't think a judge is going to be fooled by the "I pulled over to park in front of a house of somebody I don't know for no good reason" argument either. Chances are, the judge has heard it before. True, it is legal to turn off the road if the lightbar isn't activated but the headlight thing can be a problem if you are doing it for the precise reason of avoiding police detection.

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5) If you get caught, don't try to rationalize your speeding. You can't. Just admit that you were speeding and be polite about it. Don't act nervous or angry. I've gotten out of tickets for going close to 20 over in a 25 this way. If you do get ticketed, DO challenge it in court. First time offenders almost always get off with just a drivers ed class, and nothing goes to your insurance. I had a friend get out of a 95 in a 55 ticket by going to court. All he had to do was write an apology letter.

If you plan on fighting the ticket - DO NOT admit guilt. The lesser punishment is up to the judge, and if you get a PIA judge and you admitted guilt at the scene, you would have been better off just sending in the fine.
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Those are just some things I've kind of picked up from my years as a fast driver. Please share advice with me or your strategies. I'm all about not getting pulled over. Remember, cops are not our friends. They are different from you and me. The are the secret police of East Germany, the Gestapos of the Nazi empire, the...well you get the point. If we weren't supposed to speed, they wouldn't have given us small sedans with V6's in them. Good luck smile
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Remember, cops are not our friends. They are different from you and me. The are the secret police of East Germany, the Gestapos of the Nazi empire, the...well you get the point.
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You'll be singing a different tune the next time you need help from the police. They are the ones that are likely the first on the scene of a traffic accident, administering first aid. Heck, my aunt got a medal because she and her friend (also a cop) were off duty and witnessed a truck accident. She pulled the truck driver to safety and her friend pulled a civillian car driver to safety even though the truck was leaking chemicals. She's got the chemical skin burns to prove it (months later). They could have just pulled over, called it in on their cells, and waited for HazMat, but they are trained and sworn to help.

My uncle was on the scene of the La Plata, MD tornado and had his hand in keeping civillians safe and looters away. He's also delivered babies (although he swore he would never do that when he finished the academy and did 2 in the first year).

Now, think about the above statement again. Would you feel that way if you were the driver of the car the chlorine truck crashed into, or if your home had just been levelled by a tornado? Go ahead, call 911 and tell the operator the following: "Send me some Gestapo because I was just involved in an accident and I think I have injuries." Make any sense?


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#4 is pretty stupid... I tried that one before and got a ticket. LOL! The only place it might work is if you're in city streets or something that the cops will have no way figuring out where you're going. I wouldn't suggest that eitherway. Just pull over before he turns his light on and hope he appreciate your move and let you go. My friend had actually gotten a ticket that way! He pulled over and waited for the cop to turn his light on behind him.

BTW, instant-on is not all that. Most cops (at least the ones I've seen) use the instant-on on almost every car, and that's what give you the warning.


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Remember, cops are not our friends. They are different from you and me. The are the secret police of East Germany, the Gestapos of the Nazi empire, the...well you get the point.
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