|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,301
Member
|
OP
Member
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,301 |
Originally posted by GR8SVT: email chris and find out for sure....
later. I did. I've been waiting patiently. Hoping to lump it with my KVR order.
Tropic Green '00 SVT #665 of 2150
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 804
Member
|
Member
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 804 |
Originally posted by GR8SVT: the MAF adapter is made out of a different materila - iirc.
also - the iat sensor relocator is differnt....again,iirc.
there are a few differences....the actual "filter" is the same....it's the way it connects that differs.
email chris and find out for sure....
later. Whereas there are more differences than I realized, is that intake cool to run on a CSVT? 'Caus if I'm not mistaken, the KKM site has it listed for 2.5L Duratecs and the Tru-Rev intake listed as the intake for CSVTs. Please correct me if I'm wrong...again. 
-Rob- '98 E0 Contour SVT #897, T-Red. FOR SALE: '98 E0 CSVT #2663 SilverFrost; stock & in very good condition. $7,800 KKM & BAT Intake Pipe, DIY cool air intake, Resonator deleted, TH fix; short shifter, rear spoiler, hood struts, fog mod, pre-98 sails, dings removed, A4 side-markers, clear head-light corners, T-red chrome front & back. Aussie Bar waiting for installation.
"Monkey is my business...and business is good!"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,301
Member
|
OP
Member
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,301 |
I'd be interested in the answer too. There really isn't much difference in the SVT / Duratec Non-SVT stock air intakes is there?
Tropic Green '00 SVT #665 of 2150
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,809
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,809 |
Originally posted by CueballSVT: Originally posted by GR8SVT: [b]email chris and find out for sure.... later. I did. I've been waiting patiently. Hoping to lump it with my KVR order.[/b]can't wait to get the brakes in!!! 
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 954
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 954 |
Originally posted by GR8SVT: also - the iat sensor relocator is differnt....again,iirc. I honestly don't know anything about the CTA Intake, but I know that the IAC is in a different location on the SVT engines, and non-SVT 2.5L Duratechs. The IAC is in the stock air box on the non-SVT engines, while the IAC in the SVT engines is in the flexable air pipe, down stream of the MAF. Therefore the IAC only needs to be relocated in non-SVT cars. At least this was exactly the case between my car and Kim's. (We both have the KKM) Doug, I'll take some pics of the differrences today.
88 Grand Marquis 00 SVT Contour (1584) 64 390 FE Big Block 02 Honda Spirit 750
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,809
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,809 |
Originally posted by CobraR: Originally posted by GR8SVT: [b]also - the iat sensor relocator is differnt....again,iirc. I honestly don't know anything about the CTA Intake, but I know that the IAC is in a different location on the SVT engines, and non-SVT 2.5L Duratechs. The IAC is in the stock air box on the non-SVT engines, while the IAC in the SVT engines is in the flexable air pipe, down stream of the MAF. Therefore the IAC only needs to be relocated in non-SVT cars. At least this was exactly the case between my car and Kim's. (We both have the KKM)
Doug, I'll take some pics of the differrences today.[/b]i was oh sooooo close!! thanks mike... 
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,537
Member
|
Member
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,537 |
Originally posted by CobraR: Originally posted by GR8SVT: [b]also - the iat sensor relocator is differnt....again,iirc. I honestly don't know anything about the CTA Intake, but I know that the IAC is in a different location on the SVT engines, and non-SVT 2.5L Duratechs. The IAC is in the stock air box on the non-SVT engines, while the IAC in the SVT engines is in the flexable air pipe, down stream of the MAF. Therefore the IAC only needs to be relocated in non-SVT cars. At least this was exactly the case between my car and Kim's. (We both have the KKM)
Doug, I'll take some pics of the differrences today.[/b]The IAT sensor and IAC Valve are in the SAME locations for SVT and Non-SVT Duratechs. IAT is in the Air Filter box, and the IAC is on the UIM next to the firewall and EGR Valve. The IAT "HAS TO BE" in the Air Filter Box because it reads Incoming Ambient Air Temperature PRIOR to the MAF. If it doesn't, then the MAF readings are inaccurate.
Pete... 98.5 SE Sport Duratec ATX (P66L) Black Clearcoat on Greystone DOB 11/21/1997 DOP 12/25/1997 PIAA 510 Super White Driving Lights SVT CAT-BACK EXHAUST (No Resonator) DiabloSport Chip (LPQ4) - Engineered To Raise Hell Too many other mods to list... Sounds sweet, runs quick... Crazy Horse Dyno @ 121.4 WHP/129.6 TQ
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,809
Member
|
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 2,809 |
Originally posted by RoadRunner: Originally posted by CobraR: [b] Originally posted by GR8SVT: [b]also - the iat sensor relocator is differnt....again,iirc. I honestly don't know anything about the CTA Intake, but I know that the IAC is in a different location on the SVT engines, and non-SVT 2.5L Duratechs. The IAC is in the stock air box on the non-SVT engines, while the IAC in the SVT engines is in the flexable air pipe, down stream of the MAF. Therefore the IAC only needs to be relocated in non-SVT cars. At least this was exactly the case between my car and Kim's. (We both have the KKM) Doug, I'll take some pics of the differrences today.[/b] The IAT sensor and IAC Valve are in the SAME locations for SVT and Non-SVT Duratechs.
IAT is in the Air Filter box, and the IAC is on the UIM next to the firewall and EGR Valve.
The IAT "HAS TO BE" in the Air Filter Box because it reads Incoming Ambient Air Temperature PRIOR to the MAF. If it doesn't, then the MAF readings are inaccurate.[/b]so why are the filters different? if all of that is the same - why have model specific filters? 
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,537
Member
|
Member
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,537 |
Because the SVT engine has a higher air flow rate than the NON-SVT engine. That is why a conical style filter is used in the SVT. The Non-SVT uses a square filter in a square box, that has a baffle inside to eliminate intake noise.
I know it's stupid, but we didn't design the cars, FORD did. If it was left up to us, all Tours would have the same filter, whether it was a Zetec, Duratec, or SVT.
Pete... 98.5 SE Sport Duratec ATX (P66L) Black Clearcoat on Greystone DOB 11/21/1997 DOP 12/25/1997 PIAA 510 Super White Driving Lights SVT CAT-BACK EXHAUST (No Resonator) DiabloSport Chip (LPQ4) - Engineered To Raise Hell Too many other mods to list... Sounds sweet, runs quick... Crazy Horse Dyno @ 121.4 WHP/129.6 TQ
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,301
Member
|
OP
Member
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 1,301 |
Thanks for the help guys. CTA tells me I can use any 3" pipe to connect the end of the filter to the intake from the fender. I might as well spend the extra $ and get the kkm which comes with it. After all, we have determined it is basically the same setup.
Tropic Green '00 SVT #665 of 2150
|
|
|
|
|