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I have that book, just don't have time to read the entire thing yet.

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For those particularly interested in turbocharging and intercoolers and much of what accompanies the subject, I highly recommend the book Maximum Boost by Corky Bell. It is a fantastic book on the subject, and is not too technical for the non-engineer types.


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Air to water is more efficent for the reason that Chris mentioned and others also. Transferring heat from air to aluminum then from aluminum to water is more efficient then air to aluminum to air. Not to mention in the middle of the summer you can put some ice into the intercooler reservoir and drop the intake temp lower than an air to air setup would allow.

Also what happened to the UIM. It looks like they tried for polished aluminum and then decided they couldn't do it
I wonder where Chris and Streetflight will place the radiator for the air to water intercooler! smile

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[b]Air to water is more efficent for the reason that Chris mentioned and others also. Transferring heat from air to aluminum then from aluminum to water is more efficient then air to aluminum to air. Not to mention in the middle of the summer you can put some ice into the intercooler reservoir and drop the intake temp lower than an air to air setup would allow.

Also what happened to the UIM. It looks like they tried for polished aluminum and then decided they couldn't do it
I wonder where Chris and Streetflight will place the radiator for the air to water intercooler! smile [/b]
water/air intercooler by Terry and Chris is not front mount :rolleyes:


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I would say directly in front of the throttle body. With a very short provision to hook in the hoses & IAT between them.


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Fellas, you do understand that the water in the intercooler system will need to be cooled down after being heated up by the hot air from the turbo dont you? You wouldnt need it so much on car that runs down the quarter mile but on a street car you will need to cool that water with a radiator and a pump to circulate the water through the system. What you are refering to is the intercooler itself, that of course would be where you would locate the intercooler. What about the radiator for the intercooler water? smile

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lol, you beat me to it Red.


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The other question is how large is the reservoir and where will it be?

Yes, I do realize a radiator and a pump are required. But the radiator and the associated piping is alot smaller than a front mount IC and the pump will probably be electric (I'm assuming) meaning it will be easier to place underhood.


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demon - your typical know-it-all response. have you ever considered stopping being a smart ass for a minute and actually using your intelligence (i know you have some) to answer people's questions? rara actually gave airknight an answer which would help him, reading up on the topic. on the other hand, you just make ignorant comments which nobody needs.

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[b]AK, go do some reading about the differences between air to air and water to air intercoolers. You obviously don't understand the dynamics of the situation or the differences between the two types of intercooler.
bling-bling factor over intelligent, thought out design...

Give me function over fashion anyday...[/b]


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ZetecEric - Since you missed my first post.

I told him the exact same thing Rara did. To read up of the subject to get a better understanding. (no; not as nice - yes I should have been nicer perhaps)

Then he came back with posts about why wasn't there going to be a front mount intercooler and how cool it was to have one. Even though it was mentioned several times (JVT for one) that it wasn't needed, a packaging problem, very innefficient & water to air was the best choice for the desired setup. (why make redundant posts)

He just had the bling-bling theory going full force was my thinking...
He even mentions he has an excellent book on the subject so he has all the knowledge literally at his finger tips...

So go back and tell Dom I didn't blow up at you for lashing out at me and/or for you only reading/picking 1 post out of many.
So please refrain from doing the same...


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Just don't use my name to start a flame war here! BTW, I'm not thinking about having the big intercooler up front because it look cool. I could careless because it'll be covered up by the bumper anyway. I want it because I thought it's more efficient (that was with the misconception that Chris's kit is going to have air-air top mounted intercooler).


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