since I tend to be pretty good at adding my $0.02 where it doesn't belong, I posted a counter post over there defending the tour. Silly guys...stereotyping a entire model run based on one observed track time...would be like me saying all Si's are slow because I roasted one at the drags Friday night when it ran a 16 to my 14....but I've seen civics run 12s and better.... :rolleyes:
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