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FWIW my connection is wireless (similar to satellite). It never goes down. Perhaps we could find something like that.
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My random thoughts:
CEG is great - it'd be a shame to see it shut down.
But - in reality, in the internet era one thing remains constant: people feel that information sharing on the internet is a god given right and should be free and probably even protected by the constitution. CNN, edmunds, your local newspaper - none of them can get people to pay. Now the CEG'r group may be different, but I know it'd be a huge risk for one person to count on financial stability based on paid memberships. (Remeber the group buy fiascos).
Now, there are a few notable businesses in here already that do ALOT of there business through CEG, and are already registered LLC's and such. If one of them stood up and bought Lance out, and then went to a banner ad business model, I see a very workable business model. But hey, I never did go to business school.........
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Won't continue to add another post saying "I'm in...", as the concensus is that "everyone" is willing to help.
I will, however, try to take this willingness to help one step further... I have called my contacs, to see what they would be willing to do, as far as hosting a site on their T1's, for free... The "request" will be looked into, and i will have an answer, shortly...
Outcome only looks "marginal", but I am trying, and will continue to keep my eyes open.
Here's hoping..
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Originally posted by ScottK97SEMTX: Now, there are a few notable businesses in here already that do ALOT of there business through CEG, and are already registered LLC's and such. If one of them stood up and bought Lance out, and then went to a banner ad business model, I see a very workable business model. But hey, I never did go to business school......... That actually sounds like a reasonable idea to avoid having Lance put his own financial butt on the line (banner ads or paid memberships/donation drive though an existing LLC). Assuming we cannot find a free T1 (which we were darn lucky to find in the first place). If I could take on the responsibility (sans LLC), I would. I doubt anyone wants an unemployed guy handling your money. I wouldn't.
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Originally posted by bnoon: What ever it takes... I second this....
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Originally posted by SE Spinner: Well, I have already given 20 bucks when the donation links were up, so there. I too would hate to see this site go down, how else could Terry tell us what we are doing wrong .
What we need is a plan. Lance is sounding a little tired and who can blame him, he has done some serious work for everyone here. It may be time for someone to help with the burden.
Whoever handles the task will need a funding source. Why not use the PBS model? An "internet-a-thon" to pay for next years costs. What I mean is the donation tags are left up all the time and we donate thru the year. A running total is kept along with what the next set of costs will be so we know when we have to donate and how much. No contract gets signed without being able to pay up front for the period of the contract.
And before anyone gets antsy, this is hardly the only way to deal with our impending doom or even the best, I simply think we need some constructive thought. Maybe instead of random banner ads we sell "showcases" where Contour related companies may have some space to hock their wares. God knows HMS needs a site!!
The short of it is I am willing to help with money and time and I have already shown I will put up some money.
Save our CEG!!!I agree. And heck if i could get the donations hands down first, I would get my ass in gear to get a connection to my house and do it up. Then go take donations through the rest of the year to pay for the following year.
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Originally posted by bnoon: What ever it takes... True Brad. What we need is a plan!
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Originally posted by Andy W.: No membership fees!
Donations only. You open us up to a whole bunch more problems with memberships!
I could swing $120. $10 a month is defintely doable!
-Andy Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. CEG must live on. I've learned too much and made some good friends thru CEG. Edit: In the time I've been using CEG, I've never seen Lance ask CEGers for money. We've used the site for a long time, and it's time to give back!
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The CEG's needs are changing as it grows..and now we're at a crossroads in terms of whether or not this site will live on as we know it. Free bandwidth is cool...and free bandwidth is not easy to find. I agree..we were all very lucky to have Matt host this site from his house. How many other people can do that? Not many. Even leeching off a big companies T1, with our traffic, would take a nice chunk out of their throughput. Noticeable or not they'll want money for it. It seems the paid membership thing is becoming our only option, unless we want banner ads like all the other sites. Doesn't matter to me, the content is what counts. This unwillingness to take this step is what gets me. I know the tax situation is very scary, I went through it this year for myself, being "self employed." I was scared to death about tax season, I saved up a bunch of money to prepare for the hit. what happened? I handed my write offs to the accountant, paid him $150, and wrote a check to the IRS - a small one compared to what I earned! It's really nothing to worry about. Just keep receipts and records of costs incurred for running the site, bam you're done. I mean, what else are you going to do? Just let it die?? That's plain absurd. If Lance, understandable, can't afford the time to manage ads/membership book keeping, there's a bunch of people here who can. I think it's safe to say the average person (IE: Lance) can't do it all by themselves...fine, now lets share our ideas and try to help.
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