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(sorry for the delay - I was on vacation) Yes, I race at Blawkhawk Farms . It's a fun 2 mile road course, with speeds up to about 100mph on the back straight. It's NOT a karting track (although they may race karts there too). Very much an intense on-the-edge experience. I opentrack autocross as a member of the North Suburban Sports Car Club NSSCC . NSSCC is one of the chapters of Midwest Council. Dues are $40 a year + 1 day working the track. The races are about $85 for a day of racing. Can't beat that! Plus they usually have beer parties afterwards. Discounts if you also work the track for the wheel-to-wheel racers. Actually, they are having free 'Indoor Driving Schools' during the Friday nights of March (2nd one is tonight). It's in the Holiday Inn in Schaumburg. See the NSSCC link for specifics. They have info on Midwest Council, plus racer presos discussing Blackhawk, Gingerman, and other tracks. The first Autocross (non-school) is May 11. It would be awesome to see some other Contiques at the track. It's a lot of fun. If anyone is interested in seeing some incar video links or other information, just let me know. I also have some info on Chicago CEG . Later
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Originally posted by E1SVT: (sorry for the delay - I was on vacation)
Yes, I race at Blawkhawk Farms . It's a fun 2 mile road course, with speeds up to about 100mph on the back straight. It's NOT a karting track (although they may race karts there too). Very much an intense on-the-edge experience.
I opentrack autocross as a member of the North Suburban Sports Car Club NSSCC . NSSCC is one of the chapters of Midwest Council. Dues are $40 a year + 1 day working the track. The races are about $85 for a day of racing. Can't beat that! Plus they usually have beer parties afterwards. Discounts if you also work the track for the wheel-to-wheel racers.
Actually, they are having free 'Indoor Driving Schools' during the Friday nights of March (2nd one is tonight). It's in the Holiday Inn in Schaumburg. See the NSSCC link for specifics. They have info on Midwest Council, plus racer presos discussing Blackhawk, Gingerman, and other tracks.
The first Autocross (non-school) is May 11. It would be awesome to see some other Contiques at the track. It's a lot of fun. If anyone is interested in seeing some incar video links or other information, just let me know. I also have some info on Chicago CEG .
LaterSo when are you going? Is anyone interested in maybe have a meet there and a track day? I really want to race on that track. It doesn't need to be till late May or June. It is a thought and fun one at that! peace
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Charlie, It would probably be hard to get folks up there on a Friday open track day, although that is always a possibility. I'm not sure how much they charge or what time of day it's open, but it might be worth looking into. The track is up near Rockford (about 90 minutes northwest of Chicago). What sort of interest do we have in a Friday open track day at Blackhawk Farms ? For me, I enjoy the autocross races, as you run in your specific class and get official timing and trophies.
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sweet, 85 bucks may be a little steep but getting the chance to run hard on a closed course is well worth the opportunity!
I'll have to look into Blackhawk Farms further in the future.
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Originally posted by E1SVT: Charlie,
It would probably be hard to get folks up there on a Friday open track day, although that is always a possibility. I'm not sure how much they charge or what time of day it's open, but it might be worth looking into. The track is up near Rockford (about 90 minutes northwest of Chicago).
What sort of interest do we have in a Friday open track day at Blackhawk Farms ?
For me, I enjoy the autocross races, as you run in your specific class and get official timing and trophies.So how can I get into the specific class races? I think my car would be pretty good on a track! Can I go up there and be in the class you race in? peace
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Charlie, If you have a stock Contour SVT, you'd be in C-Stock with me. Depending on what mods you have (your sig says 'Lots O Mods'), you could be bumped to C-Prepared or C-Race. You wouldn't have many folks to race against in that class. What specific performance mods do you have? As for being able to come to Blackhawk and race, the more the merrier. If you are serious about coming up, you should consider joining Midwest Council for $40/year. You'll get the publications, including race registration forms. I hope to attend the May 11th race, so you have some time (but not much) if you want to do it also. I've had a lot of interesting conversations with racers when they see my SVT. Most have heard of them, but never seen them. Pretty cool, especially if you run respectable times. Keep me posted on what you decide to do.
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Here are my performance mods. I am gonna check out the midwest council page. I really want to race on a track. I haven't tried it before so I might suck but I learn fast and am not a bad driver. I'll let you know what I do with the midwest council thing and can you just go there on a race day and register there on the spot and still race?
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i wanna race on a road course! i am very interested in a road course because i think thats the type of racing our cars would be designed for. who cares about driving in a straight line, our cars are not straight line cars. i dont think i would be able to race in the one in may, but i would love to come and watch, maybe learn some of the ropes.
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Charlie,
You would definately NOT be in C-Stock. Here is a general overview of the points assessment, and where it places you in the C class. There are many other rules, but here is the gigst of them.
===================================================================== TOTAL POINT CATEGORY 0-2 Remain in 'Stock' Category (C-Stock for SVT Contour) 3-7 Bumped to 'Prepared' Category 8-15 Bumped to 'Modified' Category 16 and up Bumped to 'Race' Category
===================================================================== MCSCC Autocross Series Rules – 2000 9/30/00
7.2 Points will be assessed by technical inspectors as follows:
- Tires, Wheels and Suspension Specialty compound tires ................3
Change of rim width, per full inch increment of increase ................1
Change of rim diameter, per full inch increment ................2
Suspension bushing replacement, excluding sway bars and shock absorbers ................1
Sway bar revision or addition: Front=1; Rear=1 ................1,1
Other suspension modification, per modification, including spring/rate change ................2
- Chassis stiffening (per each system) ................1
- Brake conversion, including LB1 option (except on 1LE F-bodies) ................2
- Engine Engine displacement change (per each 3% increase) ................1
Engine swap, except for exact replacement of original ................2
Removal or tampering with emission control device, per device ................1
Intake manifold change or adapter without carb or fuel injection change ................1
Carburetor or fuel injection revision with stock manifold ................2
Carburetor or fuel injection revision with non-stock manifold ................3
Camshaft change ................2
Valve size change and/or head modifications ................2
Ignition and/or computer module change ................2
Exhaust manifold change ................1
Open exhaust and/or muffler removal ................2
Exhaust system enhancement (beyond manifold and converter changes) ................1
Accessory drive revisions, including underdrive pulleys ................1
Turbocharger or supercharger change or replacement ................3
Turbocharger or supercharger addition, not including Intercooler ................4
Intercooler change or replacement ................3
Intercooler addition ................4
- Other Gear ratio change less than or equal to 20% (from stock or factory-delivered option) .................2
Gear ratio change more than 20% (from stock or factory-delivered option) .................3
Obvious attempt of weight reduction or weight transfer i.e.; removal of each bumper, removal of or replacement of each body panel, each plexiglass window panel, battery relocation, etc., per modification (first modification = 2; subsequent modifications = 1) .................2,1
Replacement of drivers seat with racing seat (This assessment is applicable only for vehicles which do not require a lap and shoulder harness) .................1
Other points may be assessed for modifications not stated here by the Chief Autocross Technical Inspector (1 point maximum, per modification).
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Here is a sample of C-Class vehicles:
Class C Note: This class includes all vehicles with V8 with less than 396 cid, unless listed elsewhere.
Acura Integra GS-R, all except Type-R Acura 3.0CL or 3.5RL, 1997 and later Acura Legend, all Acura TL DOHC V6, all Alfa Romeo Milano, GT V6, 164S, 164LS, pre-1994 AMC Javelin V8 or AMX V8, all except Class B and D lists AMC American, Concord, Spirit, Gremlin, or Hornet, all V8 except Class D list Audi 200 Turbo, all Audi A4 2.8 30V V6, 1998 and later Audi A6, all except V8 Audi TT 180 Hp with 5-speed, all BMW 323, all except M models BMW 325, all including ix, except M-models BMW 525 or 528 24 valve, all BMW 535i, all excluding M-models BMW 635, all excluding M-models and Si BMW 735i, all BMW Z3 4 cyl., all Buick Grand National, w/ non-intercooled engines, all Buick Regal V6 Supercharged, 1997 and later Cadillac Eldorado, 1993 and later Cadillac Seville SLS, 1998 and later Cadillac Seville STS, 1993-1997 Chevrolet Beretta GTZ or Z26, all Chevrolet C1500 454SS (truck), all Chevrolet Camaro V8, 1967-1981 except Class B and D lists Chevrolet Camaro Z28 w/ LG4 V8, 1982-1988 (eighth VIN digit=H) Chevrolet Camaro w/ Series II V6, 1995 and later Chevrolet Corvette, 1957-1962 Chevrolet Impala SS, 1994-1997 Chevrolet Lumina Z34 or Monte Carlo Z34, all Chevrolet Monza V8, all Chrysler Conquest Turbo TSI-R, all Chrysler 300M, all Chrysler LHS, 1999 and later Datsun 240Z, 260Z, 280Z, all Dodge Challenger V8, all except Class B and D lists Dodge Charger Turbo II (175 Hp, intercooled), all Dodge Conquest 2.6 Turbo, all Dodge Daytona Turbo II (175 Hp, intercooled), all except IROC RT Dodge Intrepid R/T, 2000 and later Dodge Lancer Turbo, 1989 and later Dodge Omni GLHS. All Dodge Shadow CSX, all Dodge Shelby Dakota or Dakota R/T, all Dodge Spirit RT, all Dodge Stealth SOHC V6, all ***************************************************** Ford Contour SVT, all ***************************** ***************************************************** Ford Lightning (truck), 1993-1995 Ford Mustang V8, 1964-1973 except Class B and D lists Ford Mustang GT or LX 5.0, 1982-1984 Ford Mustang SVO, all Ford Mustang V6, 1999 and later Ford Probe GT, all Ford Taurus SHO, all Ford Thunderbird Super Coupe, 1989 and later Ford Thunderbird Turbo, 1987-1988 Isuzu Impulse RS, 1991 and later Jaguar XKE, XJS 12 cyl., all except Class B list Honda Civic del Sol VTEC, all Honda Civic Si DOHC VTEC, 1999 and later Honda Prelude DOHC, 1992 and later except VTEC Jaguar S-Type V6 or V8, 2000 and later Lexus SC300 or SC400, all Lexus LS400, 1995 and later Lincoln Continental, 1995 and later Lincoln LS V6 or V8, 2000 and later Lincoln Mark VIII, all Lotus Europa, all except twin cam Maserati V6, all except Turbo Mazda Miata with 6-speed, all Mazda MX-6 GT, pre-1993 Mazda MX-6 V6, 1993 and later Mazda RX-7, 1984-1985 w/ 13B engine Mazda RX-7, 1986-1992, all except Turbo Mercedes-Benz 400E, E420, S430, CLK320, C230 supercharged, 500SEC, all Mercedes-Benz SLK, all Mercury Capri 5.0, 1982-1984 Mercury Cougar V6, 1999 and later Mercury Cougar V8, all except Class B and Class D lists Mitsubishi Eclipse V6, all Mitsubishi Gallant VR-4 Turbo, all Mitsubishi Starion Turbo 2.6, all Mitsubishi 3000GT SOHC V6, all Nissan 300ZX, pre-1990, all except Turbo Nissan Maxima SE w/ 5-speed, 1995 and later Oldsmobile 88 LSS Supercharged V6, 1995 and later Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme DOHC V6, 1991 and later Plymouth Barracuda V8, all except Class B and D list Plymouth Sundance Turbo II (175 Hp, intercooled), all Pontiac Bonneville SE or SSE supercharged, 1995 and later Pontiac Firebird or TransAm V8, 1967 -1981 except Class B and D lists Pontiac TransAm 301 cid Turbo, 1979-1981 Pontiac Firebird or TransAm with w/ LG4 V8, 1982-1988 (eighth VIN digit = H) Pontiac Firebird w/ Series II V6, 1995 and later Pontiac Grand Prix DOHC V6, 1991-1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, all Porsche 911 models w/ 130 to 165 Hp Porsche 924 S or 924 Turbo, all Porsche 944, all except Class A & B lists Saab 900 V6, 1994 and later Saab 900 or 9000 Turbo, all Saab 9000 V6, all Saab 9-3 Turbo, all except Viggen Saab 9-5 V6 Turbo, all except Aero Saab 9-5 4 cyl. Turbo, all Subaru Impreza 2.5RS, 1997 and later Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon GT, 1995-1999 Subaru SVX, all Sunbeam Tiger V8, all Toyota Camry V6 with 5-speed, 1997 and later Toyota Solara V6, all Toyota Celica GT-S, 2000 and later Toyota Celica Turbo, all Toyota MR-2 Supercharged Toyota Supra, all except Class X, A, B and D lists Volvo 850 Turbo, all except T-5R and 850R Volvo GLT Turbo, all Volvo S70 Turbo, all VW Corrado V6, all incl. supercharged VW Jetta V6 or Golf V6, all
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Mike boy,
I 100% agree with you. Our cars are road cars, not drag racers. Given a good driver, our cars (especially in SVT trim) can hold it's own against many cars considered 'better'.
Even if you only go to spectate, you'll enjoy watching the variety of cars running around the course.
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