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Ok, I hope that you are an engineer that could help me.
If you could please, tell me about your schooling, and education, to get you to your current position. I am a student at Ferris, studing Automotive Engineering Technology, a brand new major, here at school...It is not TRUE engineering, like designing, but things like testinga and failure analyasis.. anywayz...the major teaches things like Dyno's, alternate fuels, and basically everything to fix a car, plus things like high pref. engines, failure analysis, OSHA law and regs, fluids and thermodynamics... then the basics, like physics, calc, history and what not...
Could you please tell me, is there anything that I am missing ???....
Please help.. I don't want to go to far into school before making sure that I don't need anything else...
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Ok, I hope that you are an engineer that could help me.
If you could please, tell me about your schooling, and education, to get you to your current position. I am a student at Ferris, studing Automotive Engineering Technology, a brand new major, here at school...It is not TRUE engineering, like designing, but things like testinga and failure analyasis.. anywayz...the major teaches things like Dyno's, alternate fuels, and basically everything to fix a car, plus things like high pref. engines, failure analysis, OSHA law and regs, fluids and thermodynamics... then the basics, like physics, calc, history and what not...
Could you please tell me, is there anything that I am missing ???....
Please help.. I don't want to go to far into school before making sure that I don't need anything else...
Thank YOU!


I dont know about the Automotive Engineering curriculum, but try to switch to Mechanical Engineering if possible. I started in the Manufacturing Engineering program back in 1995, but after I completed 1 year, I transferred to Arizona State University because I felt that Ferris wasn't teaching from a broad perspective in manufacturing. The whole core program seems to be based off automotive for which I totally disagree with - I even had it out with an instructor by the name of Mark Rusco for which was teaching Industrial Engineering from a book, rather than experience - and this guy never worked as an industrial engineer - a quality engineer has no purpose teaching an industrial engineering class eek .
I guess it all depends on what your future goals are. You will be pretty much stuck within the automotive field if you choose this curriculum, versus choosing a broad form of engineering discipline.

And....testing is what all engineering disciplines are about. So, grasp the concepts of FEA's and FMEA's very well. The person you ought to talk to is Rara. He would give you better advice since he is an automotive engineer.


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Ok, now thinkin' about other schools. Other than Arizona, is there any other good engineering schools anyone can suggest?

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Look into GMI/Kettering's ME-Auto program. It is a little more theoretical and a little less practical than what you are describing, but you can always get involved with one of the SAE project cars they have going. Some classes include Engine Design, Vehicle Design Project, Chassis Design. And, co-op gives you all the hands on you'll ever need if you get a good sponsor job. I know guys that worked at GM and Chrsler's Proving Grounds. They love ME Hot Rod students there.

Of course, this assumes you don't mind living in Flint fot half the year. eek


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Ok, now thinkin' about other schools. Other than Arizona, is there any other good engineering schools anyone can suggest?

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Western Michigan University, Michigan State University, Kettering (only automotive disciplines though), University of Mich, Grand Valley State University - It all depends on your future goals like I said before.


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western mich, mich tech, and many others are good schools to go for engineering. western is building a whole new engineering facility. done by 2003. thats where i think i am going to go to be a mech engineer.


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Kettering (only automotive disciplines though)


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Hello,

I'm a Industrial engineer, and I can tell try to stay away from "tech" programs and get into a engineering degree. It will be more work but much better pay in the end. Also once you know the theory behind engines and such you will be able to do all the tech work they are teaching you. You will also be more educated on modifing cars because you know the effects it will have on your baby. I started in a EE tech and found that when I switched to a ABET accredited university, they accepted NO credits after one year of work! All because tech programs are algebra based and not calculus. Go with any ABET accredited school and gurentee yourself 40-60 G's once done. Good luck, it will be tough be be diligient and form group study sessions!


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Hello,

I'm a Industrial engineer, and I can tell try to stay away from "tech" programs and get into a engineering degree. It will be more work but much better pay in the end. Also once you know the theory behind engines and such you will be able to do all the tech work they are teaching you. You will also be more educated on modifing cars because you know the effects it will have on your baby. I started in a EE tech and found that when I switched to a ABET accredited university, they accepted NO credits after one year of work! All because tech programs are algebra based and not calculus. Go with any ABET accredited school and gurentee yourself 40-60 G's once done. Good luck, it will be tough be be diligient and form group study sessions!


AMEN! But, I have to disagree about the pay scale though. I know two guys with tech degrees in my workplace that are pulling more money than me, not from schooling though, but from actual work experience.
Both guys have the "congressional" stamp from intern ship with DOD on their resumes for which grant them more pay and higher status anywhere they go. It's all about experience and what you know now.


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You guys are awesome. Thanx for fillin' me in. Tell ya what, once i get my 60 g a year job, I'll buy you all dinner, and by then i can buy you all beer with it. I teach you how to do a college grad. keg stand!!... I know, I know, more study less beer, yada yada.. you guys sound like my dad ('01 Windstar) hehe. Peace, TIm

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