Now come on Steve, some people just can't comprehend the magnatude of the "wing equation". Andy, here's what it breaks down to. Say I'm driving my Mom's ex-car. A 1994 Aerostar. Because it has the word "Aero" in it, and "star" too, that automatically means it can fly. BUT! When I put the wing on the back of the roof, and could no longer fit under bridges on the expressway, I thought, "Ryan, why don't you just fly over them instead?" So I flew. I figured I could because "Aero" and "star" and because of the wing. The wing was 4ft. by 15ft. and weighed 502lbs. Multiply that, and you get a big number...causing flight.