Originally posted by sigma:
Originally posted by jthursby:
I have a 15 year old white girl and I can tell you no I repeat NO amount of coaxing would make her do anything beyond go to the mall, buy clothes and surf pervspace. I think you are wrong in that assumtion. And it is a BROAD assumtion on your part not anyone elses. You think that terrorist can recruit non-islamic people to go blow themselves and others up? What is the promise?, all the latte's and chino's they want? That assumtion is insane. You have to be born into western hatred to ever contemplate doing something so stupid. most of us were not. Thats blame passing instead of looking at a core solution. Sounds like your idea is "there isn't much we can do except put a complete halt to our own lives so that nobody gets offended" approach to terrorism.
Thats a big stinking pile and you know it.

Jim T.




Yeah, I know a Muslim that won't attack the US, therefore the same must old true for all of them, right? Yeah, a sample of one proves your point. Talk about a big stinking pile.

Did you miss the part where all but 3 of the terrorists arrested in Britain last were were born in Britain, and all of them had been raised there? That 4 of them were White guys? No one thought little 21-year old Don Stewart would be capable of something like that either. But he was.

Richard Reid and Zacharias Moussaoui were Europeans that, while they did have a long-standard hatred of the US, they were not "born into" Western hatred. What's your excuse there?

There are hundreds of millions of people throughout the world that hate the US. And yes, while 95% of them may look a certain way, there's a small group that provide a wealth of options. Do you seriously believe that there aren't White people that hate the US? That women aren't at least a small part of that group? It doesn't take millions to bring down a plane, it only takes one. We don't need a huge group. Are you seriously so deluded that you think someone couldn't easily find a person, even a few dozen, of any background, of any sex, of any race, that would be willing to do whatever anyone wanted them to? They don't even have to hate the US they just have to be someone with enough hatred for the world to do something so vile.

Young people in particular are very susceptible to what amounts to brain-washing. In a small amount of time you can make a disenchanted teenager think and do damn near whatever you want. That's why al Qaeda is eating up these teenage converts to Islam.

Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson. Just a few names off the top of my head to display what the power of suggestion and a relatively small amount of time can do for you. Any one of those guys could have had their followers kill planeloads of people and it would have unquestionably been done. And probably have been done by a Young White Woman.

If you seriously are so deluded in your belief that only brown Muslim people want to commit heinous crimes then you might want to call up the British police and tell them to release Oliver Savant, Don Stewart, and Brian Young. Surely they had nothing to do with all this recent hub-bub in Britain. I mean, they're White for chris'sakes. Everyone knows white guys don't do stuff like that. :rollseyes:

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Sounds like your idea is "there isn't much we can do except put a complete halt to our own lives so that nobody gets offended" approach to terrorism.




And it sounds like you've got a reading comprehension problem. I said I didn't have a problem with profiling, so stop assuming that because someone doesn't like your profiling nonsense that you need to reply with some drivel about how they must be some "PC liberal" and try actually addressing the point. This might be difficult for you to understand but I simply want a plan that works. Or at least works better. Not a plan with gigantic gaping holes you could walk a blind elephant through like the "If only we could profile we could solve all our problems" plan.

If you want to profile, fine, I don't care. But it won't mean a damn thing when it's all conducted and ran by the semi-retarded, lucky-if-they've-got-a-GED, couldn't-make-it-through-police-academy, TSA guys we've got now who can't pronounce psychological profiling or interrogation process, let alone actually do it, and when the other 99% of passengers that don't meet the "profiling criteria" get hustled through some of the laxest "security" known to man.

There's a reason why El-Al, the most secure airline in the world, focuses less on profiling and more on every passenger on the flight. While some people are filtered out and more rigorously checked everyone gets checked in a manner that we wouldn't even do to the ones we did pull out due to profiling. Because, when push comes to shove, we're still more worried about how expensive and time-consuming such an operation would be rather than how much safer it might make us; and we don't want Americans to be interrogated before every flight. God forbid we hurt someone's feelings.


Your right sigma, we are all wrong, go about it your way. sounds like typical liberal drivel, no matter what anyone says its wrong. You win we all give up.


Jim T.


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