Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
What I am getting at is that the the scales are tipping on CEG.

Tom, Greg, Stazi, and even rick aren't posting much anynmore.


Instead we have guys like this who think he is gods gift to this car and doesn't need no eeeexpensive parts to make his car fast.

The fact of the matter is that CEG has an extensive history of dyno proven mods. This guy is gonna come on here and tell me he put down 171 hp with no tune and no SVT intake manifolds, and not even gutted pre cats. Instead his own home brew exhaust and an ebay intake fan...OMFG you have got to be kidding me!

I have been extensively modding this car for four freaking years and I will be damned if that is going to yield 171whp.

If so I want to go to that very dyno because I will prob throw down 225whp...


This site really is shifting. The true die hards are moving on to bigger and better cars....



I was not taking a jab at anyones car or their mods, what I was trying to point out is that you do not need to throw tons of money at a Contour to make it run. I am pointing out though that the tune is not needed at this time nor does a name brand exhaust need to be used. The comment about the SVT parts was not intended as a knock on the SVT. There are parts out there that come off of say a 3.0 that just might perform better in this application and are cheaper because they do not say SVT. The SVT ECM and injectors I'm using came off guess what an SVT so I'm not knocking SVT parts. Oh by the way I also have SVT motor mounts on my car and I got flamed for that so its a no win deal with some people on here. I do not claim to have all the answers but I do know how to do research.

If you take the time to do the studying, and compare the characteristics of the exhaust flow, pulse length and velocity of the ohv V-8 compared to the exhaust characteristics of the dohc V-6 you will find out they are not the same and need to be treated differently. An Indy car style exhaust would not work on a NASCAR and vice a versa so why take for granted that an exhaust part or design that works very well on a V-8 will work on a V-6 DOHC.

My exhaust is all stainless and was welded by a professional welder at his shop which as I recall had no shade trees any were close, the design itself was discussed at length over several weeks by myself and four other die hard car nuts and is well thought out following real rules of physics. The math was done and it equaled 14 HP.

I have been to the Dyno five times for a total of 15 pulls with this car, the three best pulls to date are posted in my blog on the FCO site, I hope to have the latest sheet up by this weekend. I have documented every change I have made to the car with the dyno sheets to back them up, this way I will know if something works or it does not. I will also know what change has made the most horsepower and torque gain.

Read my post I did not say I got a fan off of ebay, it was a small floor fan that was used to move some air up the mocked up ram tube.

I have posted an invitation every time I have gone to the Dyno and guess what none of the so called gurus or any of their friends have shown up, I'm not selling a product or a pet theory, just facts backed up with Dyno numbers.

As for experience, between the five mechanics that had a part in the design of the exhaust system we have raced everything from 2 stroke go-carts to BB Fords, Chevies, Mopars and SCCA Porsche's for a total of 130+ years of experience. We have seen what works and what does not, we are not afraid to ask questions even if we get answers we do not like.

Contempt prior to investigation equals a closed mind and that my friends can lead to miss spent money and poor performance.

98 Tropic Green Contour 2.5 MTX