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Originally posted by Beowulf:
Your own comment is laced with incosistencies. Once second you say that they are more likely to have "incidents" and the next you said they are some of the sweetest dogs you ever met...which is it?




His personal experience with the breed is contrary to whatever statistic he was quoting. I'm betting he is quoting that from a source, and is not the source himself. No inconsistency there, just two differing views posited for the benefit of the reader. If he were the source of the statistic, then that would be inconsistent.


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You smell funny.




What can I say? I've been working outside in the 100�° heat. I definitely have a 'funk' about me right now!


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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
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Personally, I think it is the one breed you should have to have a license to own. Just like you would with a dangerous exotic animal.



You're a moron.

Pitbulls are less agressive that many other common dog breeds. The problem is owners train them to be mean and pitbulls do have the cabability to kill IF trained to.

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/articles/wolff.html




And I think you're a jackass, but I don't call you names when I disagree with you. It's an opinion, asshat. Respect it as such, and try not to resort to name calling if you disagree with it. You're not 12 (dangerous assumption?).

PS...I'm name calling now to make a point. (thought I'd spell that out for you, just to make certain you could figure it out)



That's fine to call me names, I don't care.

I called you a moron not because of your opinion (though I probably should since it is baseless).

I called you a moron because of this statement:
"I just can't sympathize or empathize over the death of a pit bull."

I'll call people names all I want if they deserve it. And in this case, you're statement was moronic, making you a moron. Deal with it.


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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi:
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I find it hard to be sympathetic though. Just last week a woman was attacked 60 miles from here. Lost several of her fingers. Personally, I think it is the one breed you should have to have a license to own. Just like you would with a dangerous exotic animal.

I don't agree with puppies being killed in what I assume from the post is a pretty horrific manner. Don't get me wrong. I just can't sympathize or empathize over the death of a pit bull.




Sorry about the login page bit, but you should be able to click around to find the post even though it requires membership to post a reply.

As for the woman attacked by a pitbull story, as usual, there is an assumption that the dog has done somethign wrong.

Let's say I told you that last week a woman was shot 60 miles from where I live. (and there probably was). Do you assume that the person that shot that woman did so for no reason? Perhaps the woman was shot in self defense. Perhaps the woman gave the other person reason to fear for his or her life. Every time I hear a "dog attacks person" story, all I see is the info that is NOT there. Did the person make an aggressive move towards the dog or it's owner that triggered a protective response. Was the dog purposely agitated? Was the dog's "territory" invaded? Perhaps the dog had been mistreated and was not trusting of strange people. Did the person exhibit dominating behavior that a good number of dogs of all breeds would react aggressively to?

Dogs never attack for no reason. Many times, the way they have been raised, such as lack of proper socialization and training, results in a situation that should not happen. But humans are at fault too. We need to understands the dog's individual and pack agressive triggers so that we do not make the situation worse. We also need to train and socialize our dogs properly to avoid incidents in the future.

If you buy a dog, leave it chained up in the back yard and don't ever play with it, train it or give it time to learn how to behave around other dogs, you are raising a menace.


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From the link I posted, it says pitbulls are involved in half the fatal dog bites. But it also says this is not the dogs fault, rather the idiots that train them to be that way. If pitbulls didn't exist, people would raise other breeds to do the same thing they raise pitbulls to do.


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Every time I hear a story about a dog attacking a kid it is always in the back of my mind that the kid was poking the dog with a stick or something. I'm sure it isn't always the case, but that never matters to the cops or media anyway.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

I called you a moron because of this statement:
"I just can't sympathize or empathize over the death of a pit bull."




That doesn't make me a moron, it makes me heartless. Get it right. Yeah, I'm dead inside. And don't expect any sympathy from me should YOU ever be attacked by a pit bull. You will have obviously gotten what you deserve, as these dogs are angels and pure as the driven snow.

My white-trash neighbor has two pits. They are constantly getting out of the back yard and charging and snarling at people on the street. They have, on numerous occasions, attempted to attack me and my dog in my own back yard. I told the owner in no uncertain terms that if their dogs ever did that again to me, I WOULD kill them. I will kill it, I would be completely justified, and I won't appologize for protecting myself from a dangerous animal.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
From the link I posted, it says pitbulls are involved in half the fatal dog bites. But it also says this is not the dogs fault, rather the idiots that train them to be that way. If pitbulls didn't exist, people would raise other breeds to do the same thing they raise pitbulls to do.




Exactly. Another similar breed would have been created and then trained for agressiveness.


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Originally posted by Beowulf:
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I find it hard to be sympathetic though. Just last week a woman was attacked 60 miles from here. Lost several of her fingers.




As for the woman attacked by a pitbull story, as usual, there is an assumption that the dog has done somethign wrong.

Let's say I told you that last week a woman was shot 60 miles from where I live. (and there probably was). Do you assume that the person that shot that woman did so for no reason? Perhaps the woman was shot in self defense. Perhaps the woman gave the other person reason to fear for his or her life. Every time I hear a "dog attacks person" story, all I see is the info that is NOT there. Did the person make an aggressive move towards the dog or it's owner that triggered a protective response. Was the dog purposely agitated? Was the dog's "territory" invaded?




She was walking down the street, the dog's were loose from their yard. They attacked. I guess I should have clarified that in my original post.


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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

I called you a moron because of this statement:
"I just can't sympathize or empathize over the death of a pit bull."




That doesn't make me a moron, it makes me heartless. Get it right. Yeah, I'm dead inside. And don't expect any sympathy from me should YOU ever be attacked by a pit bull. You will have obviously gotten what you deserve, as these dogs are angels and pure as the driven snow.

My white-trash neighbor has two pits. They are constantly getting out of the back yard and charging and snarling at people on the street. They have, on numerous occasions, attempted to attack me and my dog in my own back yard. I told the owner in no uncertain terms that if their dogs ever did that again to me, I WOULD kill them. I will kill it, I would be completely justified, and I won't appologize for protecting myself from a dangerous animal.



You're just proving I wasn't wrong in calling you a moron. But you're right you're also heartless.

And don't put words in my mouth. ANY dog with big enough teeth and power can attack a human. But only those raised improperly will do so.


So do you blame the dogs or your white trash neighbor for the dogs behavior? It's the owner that made them that way. OR maybe they just don't like morons.

And if a dog, a human, or anything tried to attack me, I'd have no problem killing it either. Do you think the two puppies in the first post of this thread were attacking somebody?


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