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Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Tesla Motor Company; Google it. 
That gets you out of buying gas, but how is most electricity produced?
Oil and coal burning plants.
hardly resolves the pollution issue.
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Plain and simple price gouging. Gas ranges from $2.66- $3.45.Come on that is a huge range or pricing. If gas was all the same then it would be. Since i live in teh city trust don; make too far of a drive to deliver gas so why the high charge? Fine it is in some upper area's that gas is increased for more profit. Well it shouldn't be. Like prescription medicine it is controlled by the goverment. so should this!!
I am sorry. This is just insane and retarded that the bush administration won't put that foot down.I am a bush fan but he is [censored] [censored] up with not controling the gas prices. Our econonomy is [censored] can nobody can affort things anymore.
Yes our goverment shouldn't control the companies but should control the price. Especially since this is such a huge dmenad that our economy can cipple if it stops.
But when an idividual who makes minimum wage which is 5.75 and hour
5.15x40= 206 a wek-23.9% average charge for low income taxes overall.
=158.62 then lets say an average of 1 week fill up ofa 14.5 gallon tank car.
lets say 3.00x14.00 skip the extra half tank. 42$
158.62-42= $116.62 a week. is [censored] retarded. And since the bush administration turned down the recent proposal to increase minimum wage to 7.25. They can kiss my ass.
If you say who really makes that amount as low income individuals then you must know 32% according to recent CIA statistics.  
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Originally posted by Wien_Sean:
Finally some people that get it. OPEC is not some evil organization that makes oil prices high. Ever since OPEC kicked out the oil companies that were raping oil producing nations, the oil companies only had one way to make a profit; that is through the refining of the crude oil. It is no wonder that no new refineries have been built in the US since the 70's. While the have record profits they refuse to build new refineries. They say no one wants them in their "backyard," so it costs more to keep the existing ones running at 90%+ capacity. I am sure there are plenty of places that could have new refineries built and not be in someone's "backyard."
This is pure capitalism at its worst: price gouging.
Well, take a hard look at that statement. There have also been no nuclear power plants built in the US in twenty or so years. We tend to have a "yes we need it but not here" attitude. Would anyone here say you would want a nuclear power plant near you're city, say ten miles? No. But yet we [censored] about the cost of electricity which is dependant on the price of crude or natural gas or coal, even though atomic is far cheaper and renewable. We gripe about gas prices but we won't allow drilling on the west coast of Florida? We have stiffled this countries ability to come up with new means which makes us dependant on foreign crude.
We are our own worst enemy.
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I'm going to take this one at a time. Originally posted by Rickson:
Plain and simple price gouging.
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Gas ranges from $2.66- $3.45.Come on that is a huge range or pricing. If gas was all the same then it would be. Since i live in teh city trust don; make too far of a drive to deliver gas so why the high charge? Fine it is in some upper area's that gas is increased for more profit. Well it shouldn't be. Like prescription medicine it is controlled by the goverment. so should this!!
It was hard for me to figure out what you were trying to say because you have aweful grammar. Anyway, prices of everything in the city are higher. Fact of life. There are also different blends of gas in different states, sometimes from county to county. Some are more expensive than others. Prescription medicine being controlled by the government obviously isn't working very well when you can get the same drug for 1/3 of the price in Canada. Bad point.
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I am sorry. This is just insane and retarded that the bush administration won't put that foot down.I am a bush fan but he is [censored] [censored] up with not controling the gas prices. Our econonomy is [censored] can nobody can affort things anymore.
The average distance driven per car per year if 15,000 miles. If you get 20mpg then you use 750 gallons of gas a year. That means that I pay $1,500 a year more than I did when gas was $1 6 years ago. If you look at the AVERAGE person, it isn't much worse. I hope you make more than $1,500 a year more than you did 6 years ago. Granted, people who drive 120 miles a day are hurting, but how many of those people are there? Obviously they are the minority, and many of them could probably find some other way to cut costs.
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Yes our goverment shouldn't control the companies but should control the price. Especially since this is such a huge dmenad that our economy can cipple if it stops.
I don't know if I understand all that you wrote there. You confuse me.
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But when an idividual who makes minimum wage which is 5.75 and hour
5.15x40= 206 a wek-23.9% average charge for low income taxes overall.
=158.62 then lets say an average of 1 week fill up ofa 14.5 gallon tank car.
lets say 3.00x14.00 skip the extra half tank. 42$
158.62-42= $116.62 a week. is [censored] retarded. And since the bush administration turned down the recent proposal to increase minimum wage to 7.25. They can kiss my ass.
If you say who really makes that amount as low income individuals then you must know 32% according to recent CIA statistics.
Aren't most people making minimum wage either kids on their first job or people who couldn't make more anyway? They likely don't go through $40 in gas a week now anyway. Hell, I only go through $30.
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These threads are just down right funny. Lightning guys don't complain as much about fuel prices as you guys do. Don't like buying oil/gas, move to Brazil! Its a fact of life, in our life times we are going to rely on oil based things. You either adjust to it, or get a better job.
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Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:
There are also different blends of gas in different states, sometimes from county to county. Some are more expensive than others.
This is so true, the gas in Europe has a much more distinctive and mature taste than the gas here 
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Promos/P152207.asp
go there and take the poll, as far as prices, it's f*cked that they keep going up, but what really pisses me off is when the oil companies have the balls to say that they are hurting in the pocket b/c profits aren't high enough.
and people, stop accusing Bush of being in on it, every politician has their hands in this, the majority of them are crooks...
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Originally posted by cliffjohnson:
Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:
There are also different blends of gas in different states, sometimes from county to county. Some are more expensive than others.
This is so true, the gas in Europe has a much more distinctive and mature taste than the gas here
The gas from Napa Valley has a very distinct bouquet. Just make sure you let it breath...
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Originally posted by Rickson:
And since the bush administration turned down the recent proposal to increase minimum wage to 7.25. They can kiss my ass.
Why not just make minimum wage %50, that way everyone could afford anything they wanted. Poverty would be ended, I am a genious 
Or, if you have taken a high school economics class you could figure out that raising the minimum wage results in lost jobs. A company that pays minimum wage isn't going to magically pull more money out of a hat when the minimum wage is raised, so they are going to have to fire some people and divy up the money that went to paying them to the people they keep. Great for some people, not so great for others.
Originally posted by Rickson:
If you say who really makes that amount as low income individuals then you must know 32% according to recent CIA statistics.
You mean the same CIA whose job is "obtaining and analyzing information about foreign governments, corporations, and individuals, and reporting such information to the various branches of the Government"
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Plain and simple price gouging. Gas ranges from $2.66- $3.45.Come on that is a huge range or pricing. If gas was all the same then it would be. Since i live in teh city trust don; make too far of a drive to deliver gas so why the high charge? Fine it is in some upper area's that gas is increased for more profit. Well it shouldn't be. Like prescription medicine it is controlled by the goverment. so should this!!
Do what?
Have you ever heard of taxes?
Depending on where you live, you might pay as low as 26 cents tax on gas to as much as over 70 cents a gallon -- there's about 50 cents of your 80 cent variation right there.
And not all gas is the same. In fact it's all quite different. There are 45 different blends of fuel used throughout the nation. Different blends cost different amounts to produce, and if you've only got a single refinery producing the blend that your area demands/requires, then you're at the whim of the production of that refinery which will constantly fluctuate with inputs, yields, and maintenance cycles.
And name one thing that isn't higher-priced in the city. Electricity prices are higher. Renting/Mortgage prices are higher. Water prices are higher. Groceries cost lots more there too. These are things that you absolutely require to live, basic substinence requirements of food, water, and shelter, and their prices can vary HUGELY within a city compared to outside, usually much more than gas prices do. What next? Do you want Bush to step in and mandate that land prices don't go up inside San Francisco so that the poor can continue to live downtown?
Why are prices higher in cities? Because the taxes are higher. Because employee wages are higher. Because the land that your building sits on costs MUCH more to occupy. Because your building cost a lot more to build. Because you need more and more expensive permits. Because the cost of getting stuff to you is usually higher. Because, since you probably live in the expensive city too, you want your company to make more money because it costs you twice as much to live there.
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