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Yeah I'll go out right now and stop buying gas and driving my cars. Sure thing.  Supply and demand are part of the picture, but there is more to economics than that. And there is more to how our government controls businesses than that. Oil prices are left up to OPEC. There is no real competitor. There ain't much we can do except like you said stop driving, but be realistic. Do you ride a bicycle everywhere?
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OPEC does not set prices, they take them just like everyone else. The current prices are much higher than OPEC would like them to be based on the paranoia of commodities traders and speculators.
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OPEC controls production aka controls most the cost of a barrel of oil.
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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi: Meh...if you don't like it, then stop buying gas. No demand = lower prices. That's how capitalism works. Supply and demand. If you were selling a widget that everyone wanted, would you want the government telling you how much you could sell them for? Would they have the right to dictate that to you?
Rather than complain every week when gas goes up another 15 cents, do something about it. Buy a motorcycle, ride a bike. Exxon isn't holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy gas. Now, don't go off saying I don't know how bad it hurts to fill up a big tank. I have a pickup that currently costs $110 to fill from empty, a cherry picker that costs about $90, and a crane that costs about $150. I know it hurts, but I adjust my driving habits to maximize my fill-ups. Certain vehicles stay parked most of the time, only to be used when absolutely necessary.
Long story short: stop complaining and do something to change your situation if you don't like it now. It's only going to get worse.
Your argument makes NO sense. 1) I'm slave to gas because that's the technology that I/We depend on to get around. I already buy less of it as is. 2) I OWN and ride a motorcycle already see sig. 3)Stop assuming. 4) My cars are fuel efficient.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog: Yeah I'll go out right now and stop buying gas and driving my cars. Sure thing. 
Supply and demand are part of the picture, but there is more to economics than that. And there is more to how our government controls businesses than that. Oil prices are left up to OPEC. There is no real competitor. There ain't much we can do except like you said stop driving, but be realistic. Do you ride a bicycle everywhere?
I said a bike was one option. And if prices got high enough, then yeah, I'd probably start riding a bike for short trips. Rather than focus on one statement I made, how about actually reading the entire post? Change driving habits, motorcycle, bike, carpool, make your own damn bio-diesel. There are a huge number of things you can do to reduce your oil consumption if you really want to. Most people don't want the inconvenience of the responsibility. They'd rather [censored] about it endlessly and whine for the government to step in and regulate another industry.
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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi: No demand = lower prices. That's how capitalism works. Supply and demand.
But we are also competing with 2 billion Chinese, whom WE turned to capitalism. Sorry guys, but gas is never going under $2 a gallon again.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog: OPEC controls production aka controls most the cost of a barrel of oil.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/092603C.shtml
Cut production, prices go up.
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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi: I said a bike was one option. And if prices got high enough, then yeah, I'd probably start riding a bike for short trips. Rather than focus on one statement I made, how about actually reading the entire post? Change driving habits, motorcycle, bike, carpool, make your own damn bio-diesel. There are a huge number of things you can do to reduce your oil consumption if you really want to. Most people don't want the inconvenience of the responsibility. They'd rather [censored] about it endlessly and whine for the government to step in and regulate another industry.
The point is that your options really aren't practical. How do you know how much I drive,etc. anyways? For your information I use very little gas, probably less than you do seeing as I mainly drive a four cylinder every day and don't drive far. Sure I can reduce my oil consumption, but I'm American and I want to drive my cars. And I want gas prices to be reasonable, which if you do some research, you will see that oil is overpriced. I pay taxes, our government needs to be doing something, otherwise why do we have government?
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Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger: Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi: Meh...if you don't like it, then stop buying gas. No demand = lower prices. That's how capitalism works. Supply and demand. If you were selling a widget that everyone wanted, would you want the government telling you how much you could sell them for? Would they have the right to dictate that to you?
Rather than complain every week when gas goes up another 15 cents, do something about it. Buy a motorcycle, ride a bike. Exxon isn't holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy gas. Now, don't go off saying I don't know how bad it hurts to fill up a big tank. I have a pickup that currently costs $110 to fill from empty, a cherry picker that costs about $90, and a crane that costs about $150. I know it hurts, but I adjust my driving habits to maximize my fill-ups. Certain vehicles stay parked most of the time, only to be used when absolutely necessary.
Long story short: stop complaining and do something to change your situation if you don't like it now. It's only going to get worse.
Your argument makes NO sense. 1) I'm slave to gas because that's the technology that I/We depend on to get around. I already buy less of it as is. 2) I OWN and ride a motorcycle already see sig. 3)Stop assuming. 4) My cars are fuel efficient.
I think my argument makes plenty of sense. You're making excuses for yourself. There are millions of people around the world that use a fraction of the gas you do. It is your personal tastes and preferences that dictate you ride a high-powered crotch rocket instead of a moped, drive a mini-ute instead of a Geo Metro. If you really wanted to, you could reduce your oil consumption further, and therefore reduce your dependence on big oil. You choose not to. That's fine, I can totally understand that. But since you choose not to take the extra step, you really have no basis in complaining that it's all "big oil's fault".
The plain and simple truth is you don't want to make those sacrifices. Right now, I don't either. The difference is I am willing to admit it and accept that prices are going higher. You won't or can't, and instead whine about it.
This will be the last post I make in this or any other thread about gas/oil prices. We're all going to argue 'til we're blue in the face, and we're not going to change anyone's mind. I'm done.
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stop buying mobil 1 oil?  If you guys are complaining about gas, what should I be doing? I drive a minimum of 120 miles a day to and from work. Turn out to be over $100 every two weeks for gas.
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