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Originally posted by Trapps:

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Originally posted by TourDeForce:

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Originally posted by Trapps:

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"Many of the long-range missiles fired into Israel in the recent days were Iranian missiles made by the same regime that is now trying to possess nuclear weapons," Gillerman said at the U.N. on Friday."

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If you (he) mean to suggest that those missiles could carry a nuke, I believe you are mistaken...

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I am not a rocket scientist. I also do not believe Iran has atomic weapons capability - yet. However, why couldn't those missiles carry small warheads? Again, I ask only because I don't know. I've no concept of the range, payload or accuracy of the missiles, but any nuke, however small, would most certainly have a political ripple effect tantamount to an uber-tsunami.

I see a ishstorm coming; with, or without, the threat or actual use of Oppenheimer's toy.

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Originally posted by elraido:

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Originally posted by Trapps:

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Originally posted by TourDeForce:

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Originally posted by Trapps:

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"Many of the long-range missiles fired into Israel in the recent days were Iranian missiles made by the same regime that is now trying to possess nuclear weapons," Gillerman said at the U.N. on Friday."

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If you (he) mean to suggest that those missiles could carry a nuke, I believe you are mistaken...

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I am not a rocket scientist. I also do not believe Iran has atomic weapons capability - yet. However, why couldn't those missiles carry small warheads? Again, I ask only because I don't know. I've no concept of the range, payload or accuracy of the missiles, but any nuke, however small, would most certainly have a political ripple effect tantamount to an uber-tsunami.

I see a ishstorm coming; with, or without, the threat or actual use of Oppenheimer's toy.

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Iran will NEVER have atomic weapons...Isreal and the U.S. will never let it happen. Isreal will take out any processing plant before they can make enough for a warhead.

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Originally posted by elraido:

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Iran will NEVER have atomic weapons...Isreal and the U.S. will never let it happen. Isreal will take out any processing plant before they can make enough for a warhead.

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"We have never found anything that the Soviets have successfully hidden"

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A simplistic seeming statement that becomes more profound the longer and more serious the consequences of living with its truth.

What about the huge Iranian underground facility at Natanz?

Remember the site outside Tehran at Lavizan-Shian? Almost certainly a biological and nuclear weapons laboratory. We didn���?�t know about it until an internal Iranian opposition group was alarmed enough to tell us about it. When the world insisted on a visit, the Iranians finally agreed - but before the UN inspectors arrived, the Iranians had removed all the equipment, demolished the buildings and removed the rubble. They even removed all the walkways and roads and scraped away the top foot or so of dirt.


The first time the world will be completely certain the Iranians posses nuclear weapons is when they use the first one on Israel or on a middle east US military base. Probably delivered in the back of a freight truck.

I am a smart man who has spent the majority of his adult life dealing with nuclear weapons technology in one form or another. The Iranians scare the hell out of me. A blatantly terrorist supporting state in possession of operational nuclear weapons. How about â�?��?Interfere with us and we will detonate a nuclear weapon that we have already located within your capitol City.â�?�

Mahmoud Ahmedinejad is the 21st century version of Hitler -Controlled by shadowy "religious" figures who have the authority of the radical Islam god and are therefore fully morally justified in whatever they do.

There is nothing that has a higher priority to them than acquiring nuclear weapons ���?? they are the perfect tools for pursuing the will of the radical Islam god.

Originally posted by JEDsContour:

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Originally posted by elraido:

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Iran will NEVER have atomic weapons...Isreal and the U.S. will never let it happen. Isreal will take out any processing plant before they can make enough for a warhead.

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That's not even close to true with the absolute certainty you have. While its exceedingly unlikely they will ever have a completely clandestine program, its possible to keep the details well hidden and the facilities themselves well protected. What and where do you attack?

There was an old saying among Rand defense analysts (Amrom Katz) in the cold war days that is still true today:

Quote:

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"We have never found anything that the Soviets have successfully hidden"

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A simplistic seeming statement that becomes more profound the longer and more serious the consequences of living with its truth.

What about the huge Iranian underground facility at Natanz?

Remember the site outside Tehran at Lavizan-Shian? Almost certainly a biological and nuclear weapons laboratory. We didn���?�t know about it until an internal Iranian opposition group was alarmed enough to tell us about it. When the world insisted on a visit, the Iranians finally agreed - but before the UN inspectors arrived, the Iranians had removed all the equipment, demolished the buildings and removed the rubble. They even removed all the walkways and roads and scraped away the top foot or so of dirt.


The first time the world will be completely certain the Iranians posses nuclear weapons is when they use the first one on Israel or on a middle east US military base. Probably delivered in the back of a freight truck.

I am a smart man who has spent the majority of his adult life dealing with nuclear weapons technology in one form or another. The Iranians scare the hell out of me. A blatantly terrorist supporting state in possession of operational nuclear weapons. How about â�?��?Interfere with us and we will detonate a nuclear weapon that we have already located within your capitol City.â�?�

Mahmoud Ahmedinejad is the 21st century version of Hitler -Controlled by shadowy "religious" figures who have the authority of the radical Islam god and are therefore fully morally justified in whatever they do.

There is nothing that has a higher priority to them than acquiring nuclear weapons ���?? they are the perfect tools for pursuing the will of the radical Islam god.

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Nice Post Jeds! I'm in awe of how well yet concise you made your point.

Originally posted by JEDsContour:

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Originally posted by elraido:

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Iran will NEVER have atomic weapons...Isreal and the U.S. will never let it happen. Isreal will take out any processing plant before they can make enough for a warhead.

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That's not even close to true with the absolute certainty you have. While its exceedingly unlikely they will ever have a completely clandestine program, its possible to keep the details well hidden and the facilities themselves well protected. What and where do you attack?

There was an old saying among Rand defense analysts (Amrom Katz) in the cold war days that is still true today:

Quote:

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"We have never found anything that the Soviets have successfully hidden"

---

A simplistic seeming statement that becomes more profound the longer and more serious the consequences of living with its truth.

What about the huge Iranian underground facility at Natanz?

Remember the site outside Tehran at Lavizan-Shian? Almost certainly a biological and nuclear weapons laboratory. We didn���?�t know about it until an internal Iranian opposition group was alarmed enough to tell us about it. When the world insisted on a visit, the Iranians finally agreed - but before the UN inspectors arrived, the Iranians had removed all the equipment, demolished the buildings and removed the rubble. They even removed all the walkways and roads and scraped away the top foot or so of dirt.


The first time the world will be completely certain the Iranians posses nuclear weapons is when they use the first one on Israel or on a middle east US military base. Probably delivered in the back of a freight truck.

I am a smart man who has spent the majority of his adult life dealing with nuclear weapons technology in one form or another. The Iranians scare the hell out of me. A blatantly terrorist supporting state in possession of operational nuclear weapons. How about â�?��?Interfere with us and we will detonate a nuclear weapon that we have already located within your capitol City.â�?�

Mahmoud Ahmedinejad is the 21st century version of Hitler -Controlled by shadowy "religious" figures who have the authority of the radical Islam god and are therefore fully morally justified in whatever they do.

There is nothing that has a higher priority to them than acquiring nuclear weapons ���?? they are the perfect tools for pursuing the will of the radical Islam god.

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Originally posted by elraido:

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Do you realize the amount of engergy/heat that it takes to create the processed materials needed for a warhead? Our satalites are fully capable of picking that up. We know exactly where they are making it and I am sure we will let Isreal know where that is so THEY can be the ones to take it out. And IF they ever get one somehow and launch it into Isreal, there will be no Iran left...it will be nuked beyond belief by Isreal.

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Originally posted by �?�?�?��?¯�?¬�?¬�?º:

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Sad thing is, he'll probably hit an enemy with each one of those!