thanks for the advice, butto be honest i wasnt really going for the sound i was more gong for the looks and a little more power, but i guess the noise comes with the power huh.

but know im caught up in an even worse dilema. They told me that its gonna take 2 months or more for me 2 get the headers and i cant wait that long cause my precats are basiclly shot. The precats cost almost the same as the headers but i guess they give you less power huh? im know thinking of getting new pre-ctas and then replacing evrything form the y-pipe on back because i need to drive my car and i cant wait any longer. I was thinking of gutting them for the time being but cant be bothered. So i guess the question is how much power will i be losing if i dont do headers and just replace everything else?