Originally posted by Rickson:
Some one on here had a 3l with an auto. It has been done, he went threw 2 of them. I believe it was Russel something or an other.

Either way a 3l auto would be nice. To invest in an auto would be pointlesss compard to just buying an mx. I know u know that Warmonger. You know alot. To add a turbo to the existing 3liter with an auto. Is just asking for alot of wasted downtime and money for the car for whe nit breaks.


Hey if you wnat to have fun go do it. If you hav emoney to waste, have fun. Too me it is too much of an investment. I would just buy a tauras with an auto if i wanted 1 that bad.



Yes, Russel3L and he built his tranny up in anticipation, only it was some of the build-up that was faulty, not necessarily the stock hardware. Hence why I said try it stock and get a backup trans to work on while he drives it around with a working 3L. This gives him first hand knowledge of how it drives and what he needs to do to a stock tranny to make it work. It is an approach that will at least keep out the guesswork because he can deal with problems if/when they crop up.

I disagree, I don't Know that it would be pointless to invest in an ATX versus buying an MTX. Maybe he wants the easy launch of an atx, maybe he just wants to make something work that no one else has managed to do over the long term very reliably. I would agree with you if there were 10 3L atx cars that all failed the same way but we've had maybe two and they aren't well documented. There are too many ATXs out there to throw the idea away especially if one were to figure out how to make the project work.
There are more atx than mtx contours hence a bigger market. More 3L contours means more contour power on the road. How funny it would be to see a 3L SE atx walking a heavily modded 2.5L SVT. Make that SVT owner get off his butt and develop his car.
Adding a turbo to it? Well I didn't take that seriously yet as the first bridge is a working 3L ATX right? It can be kept in mind but put on the back burner till the first problem is dealt with.

Also, A straight full 3L swap isn't hard and would be the most appropriate engine setup for the ATX as it was originally mated to an atx. Then he can decide to add a power adder. I'd recommend the Thomas Knight supercharger instead of the turbo due to the limited room with the ATX taking up the space where we normally put the turbo.

Also, the supercharger has a much more linear increase in power as rpms build that would nicely compliment the ATX engine and if geared properly with the right level of boost it could be setup to maximize torque in the middle to high end of the powerband and really overcome the power sucking tendency of the slushbox ATX. In short it would be a worthy project and make a nice running sleeper.
All it will take is some drive and ingenuity.

However, I do get your point about the easier more proven route versus breaking new ground. And he may not be the best candidate to try this, but who knows.
Its my job to motivate him not tear him down. Its not the same as the newbie who jumps on here and saying I'm getting a T3/4 with my SVT and 20psi to make 500 HP only I haven't got the car yet but I'll get it when my dad buys it for me next week...etc.
THEN I wouldn't even bother.

Former owner of '99 CSVT - Silver #222/2760 356/334 wHP/TQ at 10psi on pump gas! See My Mods '05 Volvo S40 Turbo 5 AWD with 6spd, Passion Red '06 Mazda5 Touring, 5spd,MTX, Black