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Originally posted by TGO:
Originally posted by GTO Pete:
And unfortunately getting far inferior results.
Polishing by hand is good for paint in very good or better condition. Moderately swirled or worse and a PC/orbital is the only way to go.
yadda yadda, it works fine for me. how do you know what condition my paint is in or how inferior my results are anyway?
Did I say anywhere that hand polishing is wrong or bad?
Did I say anything about the condition of your paint?
Apparently you decided to read the first line, take offense and skip the rest. Re-read what I said. 
I know detailers who have been detailing for many years who can't hand polish what a machine polish can do to remove moderate+ swirls. They can do a really good job, but it takes 10x longer and not as good.
AFAIK no one on CEG has ever posted real polishing before and afters or hand vs machine - just shine pics / pics at a distance. I'm posting my results which are quite obvious. Until you can show you can do the same by hand...
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Stupid to not use a wheel if you regularly wax your car. Saves so much time and energy and you obtain better results.
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Originally posted by GTO Pete:
Apparently you decided to read the first line, take offense and skip the rest. Re-read what I said.
I know detailers who have been detailing for many years who can't hand polish what a machine polish can do to remove moderate+ swirls. They can do a really good job, but it takes 10x longer and not as good.
AFAIK no one on CEG has ever posted real polishing before and afters or hand vs machine - just shine pics / pics at a distance. I'm posting my results which are quite obvious. Until you can show you can do the same by hand...
No I read the whole thing. And i didn't take offense, i simply asked you a question based on the post you made.
You say i'm getting "far inferior results" then you go on to say hand waxing is ok for paint in "good or better condition"
Maybe you should reread what you posted, since you took it upon yourself to assume something you do not know in the first place (the condition of my paint).
You wan't to see what i do by hand, look at the july 2005 calendar.
I have no problem with you posting your comparison pics, and you shouldn't have had a problem with me simply stating that i do it the old fashioned way. You took it to the next level, with your inferior results coment (READ: You don't agree with me so you're wrong), Maybe you got great results on your car that didn't appear to have a paint job in excellent condition, but i don't like to use a buffer and i don't need to because i've been as meticulous as possible with the paint since the day i got the car.
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Originally posted by TGO:
i still do it by hand. call me old fashioned.
Blanket statement stating you polish all cars by hand.
If you are only hand polishing new/fresh/good-better paint then I stand corrected.
If you are hand polishing paint less than good+ by hand, then you are geting inferior results.
Originally posted by TGO:
You say i'm getting "far inferior results" then you go on to say hand waxing is ok for paint in "good or better condition"
See above.
Originally posted by TGO:
i don't need to because i've been as meticulous as possible with the paint since the day i got the car.
You should have said this to begin. Kudos to you for taking the appropriate steps to maintain your paitn from day one.
Originally posted by TGO:
You wan't to see what i do by hand, look at the july 2005 calendar.
Yes, it's shiney, but not impressed in the least. I've personally seen CEGers cars that look amazingly shiney in pictures, but in person are swirled beyond belief. Show me some closeup pics under fluorescent lights to show lack of swirls and I'll be impressed.
Originally posted by TGO:
I have no problem with you posting your comparison pics, and you shouldn't have had a problem with me simply stating that i do it the old fashioned way.
I don't have a "problem" with how you do it. I dislike people who make blanket statements. Because you have properly maintained your paint from day one, your paint is virtually swirl free and hand polishing works fine for you. This does not apply for 90+% of CEG.
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Looking for swirls: Before:  After: 
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well if i ever get a chance to have the car under flourescent lights, i'll take a picture for you.
i still don't understand how you didn't make a blanket statement yourself by telling me what kind of results i get. but whatever.
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Originally posted by GTO Pete:
If you are only hand polishing new/fresh/good-better paint then I stand corrected.
If you are hand polishing paint less than good+ by hand, then you are geting inferior results.
I'm done.
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Originally posted by GTO Pete:
Originally posted by GTO Pete:
If you are only hand polishing new/fresh/good-better paint then I stand corrected.
If you are hand polishing paint less than good+ by hand, then you are geting inferior results.
I'm done.
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Wow thats a huge difference! I haven't attempted a wheel yet. I guess I am too afraid to do it incorrectly and burn the paint or cause more damage. i should find someone experienced to learn me! 
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