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Originally posted by TGO:

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If you take your car to a mechanic, do you leave him your house keys too? If you gave your neighbor a key to your house to feed your dog while you were away for a day or two, would you make sure to leave the key to your safe/lockbox on the ring too??

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Originally posted by IRingTwyce:

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Originally posted by RT and his SE:

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It must be tough to be scarred all the time or maybe it's just paranoia.

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When I have 3rd degree burns all over my body, I'll let you know if it's tough to be scarred [sic] all the time. In the mean time, 10 seconds to remove a key from a ring is not being scared, it's being prudent.




Maybe TGO, jtthursby, and I are the only ones here that feel this way, but I personally am amazed and baffled by how sorry everyone feels for someone who did something blatantly stupid and then was surprised when something bad came of it. I'll say this again. Yes, it is sad this happened to her, but my level of give-a-sh!t for her is seriously hampered by her lack of any common sense. (I'm sure I'll get flamed for this comment: If the valet had been allowed his way and HAD killed her, I think she should have been nominated for a Darwin Award!)

It takes maybe 15 seconds to remove a key from the ring, it's not what I'd call time consuming. As to the comment that she saw him every day and therefore was comfortable with him...it's laughable. This was not a man that she had spent ANY time with outside of work, or at work for that matter. Her amount of daily interaction appears to have been handing him a car key and taking a numbered slip of paper in return. Regardless of seeing him every day, she still did not know him!

Through my business, I often see the same people on a daily basis. I may know their names, know what they drive, might even interact with them often, but wouldn't give any of them my house keys for 15 minutes, much less the duration of an 8 hour work shift. In the 8 years I've been lettering vehicles for a living, I cannot remember a single instance when a customer left their car/truck with more than the ignition key. Up until this instance, if someone HAD left me their entire key ring, they would be safe in their home at night because I'm not a psychotic lunatic. Now that this has happened to this woman, you can bet I'll be chasing that customer down in the street to give them back all their keys except the one single key I need.

I know I sound like a broken record here, but it is just PLAIN COMMON SENSE we're talking about here!!!! :deep breath: [/soapbox]

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And without a level of trust from your customers you wouldn't have a business.

Everybody, everyday at some point has to trust another human being. There are any number of ways that this could blow up in your face. The person making you burger, the guy who used the restroom before you,(maybe the same person )did the mechanic who fixed your brakes do the job right, when the cable guy shows up is he gonna bend you over the credenza and install something other than HBO? You might as well blackout all the widows in the house and start buying cats!
I prefer to run my life rather than the other way around.

Originally posted by TGO:

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Originally posted by elraido:

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I COULD and DO have the power to screw people over very badly by doing all sorts of bad things with that info....and their is NOTHING they can do about it.

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then go ahead and watch what happens to you.

you're comparing apples and oranges here...is a city employee more likely to sacfirice a job, benefits, pension, etc. Plus the stiff penalties that would be thrown at you for identity theft (and you wouldn't get away with it), then a scraggly looking parking valet?

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so, everyone who has commited identity left has been caught? and just because I have a decent county job mean I wouldn't scam people if I was a bad person? Explain to me how I would be caught? All I need to do is jot down the s.s. number, drivers license numer, and address of the person I want to scam and I am set. How in the world would they know that it was the guy at the DMV who stole it...unless I did something really stupid like have all merchandise bought with stolen money sent to my house.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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jthursby I know what you're saying but do you know what I'm saying?
The original poster tried blaming the woman for what happened and it was not her fault. Yes, she could have possibly prevented it, so she didn't do everything she could have. But what I'm saying is even though you do a lot to protect yourself, I bet you don't do every single thing you could. You can do all you do now and be walking in the mall and someone walk up behind you and shoot you point blank. And I reckon that would be your fault because you weren't wearing your body armor that day.

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I never said I blamed her, I said by one simple gesture, not even REMOTELY paranoid in nature she could have and WOULD have prevented it. The guy should have his nads cut off and roasted. I am by no means paranoid (no dope doncha know ) but I can promise you this, if you are a predator looking for trouble you telegraph that intent for any that care to catch it. You will not get near me. I'll simply change what I'm doing to avoid you. It's simple. How many times have you looked at somebody and thought, "man he's looking for trouble"? It's that simple. It's called situational awareness. It's not paranoia in this day and age, it's smart. And I see exactly what you are saying, so lets just agree to disagree. I remember arguing with people my age when I was your age (get that?) and everyone getting nowhere also.

Jim T

Originally posted by cliffjohnson:

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Originally posted by TGO:

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How is taking your house keys off your key ring before you give your car key to a stranger drastic??

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i'm talking about removing every shred of evidence from your car when you park, ie removing keys, registration, insurance cards, inspection reciepts, etc... it's a pain to take all that stuff out every time you valet.

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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Originally posted by TGO:

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If you take your car to a mechanic, do you leave him your house keys too? If you gave your neighbor a key to your house to feed your dog while you were away for a day or two, would you make sure to leave the key to your safe/lockbox on the ring too??

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As somewhat of a mechanic, yes many people leave every key they have on thier key chain. They're not paying me to rob them, they're paying me to fix their car. If I rob them, then I'm to blame, not them. If we go to court, then it would be me to blame. They also leave loaded guns, registrations and other documents with the addresses on them in their car. Yes, they could remove everything from their vehicle.... but then we're getting to that point where you're turning around every half second with a loaded gun in your hand because you're afraid someone is going to kill you. Be realistic.

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Originally posted by jthursby:

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And you think leaving a loaded gun where somebody else could find it is smart Kremit???? If that firearm is traceable to you (and it should be)and somebody commits a felony with it, you could be responsible in a civil court. Next time Kremit do this for me, before the guy leaves ask him nicely to please remove his firearm from the vehicle as you do not wish to assume responsibility for it. I painted cars over twenty years and believe me I called plenty of people and told them to come get their toys. I worked at a Maaco (yea I know, it was good money)and the detailer used to ransack cars. He found a .45 in a car one day and swiped it. while showing his buddies that night not realizing it was a single-action pistol or how it worked, he shot his buddy thru the gut. The guy later died. Paranoia? No, its called personal responsability keeping your guns out of the reach of others.

Jim T

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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Originally posted by jthursby:

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And you think leaving a loaded gun where somebody else could find it is smart Kremit???? If that firearm is traceable to you (and it should be)and somebody commits a felony with it, you could be responsible in a civil court. Next time Kremit do this for me, before the guy leaves ask him nicely to please remove his firearm from the vehicle as you do not wish to assume responsibility for it. I painted cars over twenty years and believe me I called plenty of people and told them to come get their toys. I worked at a Maaco (yea I know, it was good money)and the detailer used to ransack cars. He found a .45 in a car one day and swiped it. while showing his buddies that night not realizing it was a single-action pistol or how it worked, he shot his buddy thru the gut. The guy later died. Paranoia? No, its called personal responsability keeping your guns out of the reach of others.

Jim T

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Did I say it was smart? I said it happens. And no, I'm not telling anyone to remove their guns. I don't care. Maybe somebody'll get shot and make a boring day into an exciting one.

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