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It makes an assumption that everybody is a potential criminal, which is insulting and contrary to our system of justice. I believe police safety can be served in better procedural methods than by such heavy handed and unnecessary measures. Ummm... make the people roll down the windows before approaching the car! 
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true, that would be nice if they did, but not everyone is nice and thoughtful. Someone who really IS a killer is not going to roll the window down, so why even allow the danger. Just say no tint over such a % is allow. Simple as that. Eliminates alot of problems, except when people don't obide by the law.
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Originally posted by platinum_drew:
Originally posted by Honed Diva:
Tint laws are another example of an overreaching government that cannot mind their own business, but you're stuck with the two options stated before.
it has to do with police safety. imagine a cop walking up to a car and tapping on the window he couldn't see through, and the whole time the driver was aiming a sawed off shotgun at him, and pulls the trigger. overreaching gov't? not this time
That's one reason tint laws exist, but it's certainly not the primary one. Like seatbelt laws, tint laws are for your own protection. Tinted windows decrease your ability to see all around your vehicle at night. There needs to be a legal limit in order to prevent unnecessary accidents.
Anyone who knowingly tints their windows darker than the legal limit of their state is quite simply a dumbass.
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May not work, as I'm sure however it happened was a specific set of circumstances, but my buddy recently had the same thing happen to him, and when he went to the PD to show he had removed the tint according to the tickets instructions, he just had grabbed some old cheap tint laying around the shop, crumbled it up into a ball and showed them that and that was the end of it. Even though he still has the illegal % of tint on the car.
However, I personally would just follow the local laws of legal tint limits or closely as possible. For example, 5% all around or something is just asking for it.
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Originally posted by Rishodi:
That's one reason tint laws exist, but it's certainly not the primary one. Like seatbelt laws, tint laws are for your own protection. Tinted windows decrease your ability to see all around your vehicle at night. There needs to be a legal limit in order to prevent unnecessary accidents.
Anyone who knowingly tints their windows darker than the legal limit of their state is quite simply a dumbass.
While that is another reason states enact them, why is there such a wide disparity? Does it get less dark in NM or FL at night then it does in the north? Of course not.
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Originally posted by Pete D:
Originally posted by Rishodi:
That's one reason tint laws exist, but it's certainly not the primary one. Like seatbelt laws, tint laws are for your own protection. Tinted windows decrease your ability to see all around your vehicle at night. There needs to be a legal limit in order to prevent unnecessary accidents.
Anyone who knowingly tints their windows darker than the legal limit of their state is quite simply a dumbass.
While that is another reason states enact them, why is there such a wide disparity? Does it get less dark in NM or FL at night then it does in the north? Of course not.
There's a wide disparity because the line at which the tint level becomes "unsafe" is highly subjective.
Limits tend to be higher in the South because it's popular with the people to allow them more tint since the sun is more intense. Getting an untinted car cool in Texas 3/4 of the year is an exercise in futility.
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Originally posted by Rishodi:
That's one reason tint laws exist, but it's certainly not the primary one. Like seatbelt laws, tint laws are for your own protection. Tinted windows decrease your ability to see all around your vehicle at night. There needs to be a legal limit in order to prevent unnecessary accidents.
I neither need nor want government to protect me in this way. Also, it is obvious government have no clue as to what a reasonable safe maximum tint is, because millions of people drive with darker tint every day without getting in accidents.
In fact, I consider a moderate tint (30% or so) to be a safety feature in reducing glare, with minimal impact to night vision.
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Originally posted by sigma:
There's a wide disparity because the line at which the tint level becomes "unsafe" is highly subjective.
Limits tend to be higher in the South because it's popular with the people to allow them more tint since the sun is more intense. Getting an untinted car cool in Texas 3/4 of the year is an exercise in futility.
Right, my point was largely that the thought process used to dictate what the law should be is largely arbitrary. If we saw that type of disparity around speed limits you'd be able to drive 120 in texas but you'd still have the double-nickel in other states.
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Originally posted by Pete D:
Originally posted by sigma:
There's a wide disparity because the line at which the tint level becomes "unsafe" is highly subjective.
Limits tend to be higher in the South because it's popular with the people to allow them more tint since the sun is more intense. Getting an untinted car cool in Texas 3/4 of the year is an exercise in futility.
Right, my point was largely that the thought process used to dictate what the law should be is largely arbitrary. If we saw that type of disparity around speed limits you'd be able to drive 120 in texas but you'd still have the double-nickel in other states.
And you do. That's why, for a short time at least, there were "unlimited" speed limits in some areas. Even now, you've got 80mph interstates in Texas that would be only 55mph in other states.
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Originally posted by Pete D:
While that is another reason states enact them, why is there such a wide disparity? Does it get less dark in NM or FL at night then it does in the north? Of course not.
Yeah, people in Florida don't need as much tint as us in Arizona. It doesn't get 115 in Florida on a normal basis.
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