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What ever happened to the military avoiding the news and press? When I was in the military they they did not like being in the news.
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
No, pointing out to you that because it's your opinion does not mean it is true, is not a symantics argument.
There has been far too much sensationalization of our troops doing wrong over-seas, only to have the investigation prove that they did nothing wrong. All the big media outlets, CNN especially, do nothing but report on Iraq with only negatives. Hell, even their reporting of Zarquawi's death had headlines like "He's Dead, but is it really good for us?" They are so biased in their hatred of Bush that they take it out wherever they can, including our troops.
I forget his name, but there was a soldier not too long ago whose name was drug through the mud, called murderer, only to be cleared of all wrong doing. There is no need for these sensationalized stories in a time of war. Do you not think our enemy reads our news reports??? Do you not think that if the soldiers are proven innocent, that these reports do nothing but bolster support for Al Queda?
My question is why can the major news outlets not report anything good about the war? And why can they not save reporting these details of events, after they are confirmed by a court of law?
Well, the war is a negative and the public doesn't support it any longer. Couple that with the fact that we're not supported worldwide in this war either. That's why there is so much focus on the negative. Btw, the same story was covered on Fox News if that makes you feel any better.
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Originally posted by TGO:
Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger:
The final report will be just that. A final report of a murder committed.
what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
That goes out the window when the defendants are soldiers, or anyone else in a position that the media can use them to make Bush or the war look wrong.
Not necessarily. Soldiers are in a position of extreme power. And if there is a chance that they're abusing their power it must be investigated. Guess you don't remember the Abu Grayib prision being closed because of abuses huh?
And the war is WRONG.
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Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger:
Not necessarily. Soldiers are in a position of extreme power. And if there is a chance that they're abusing their power it must be investigated. Guess you don't remember the Abu Grayib prision being closed because of abuses huh?
And the war is WRONG.
yes well a chance is not enough to convict. You're saying they're guilty, which they may be...but that is to be determined by the court.
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Originally posted by TGO:
Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger:
Not necessarily. Soldiers are in a position of extreme power. And if there is a chance that they're abusing their power it must be investigated. Guess you don't remember the Abu Grayib prision being closed because of abuses huh?
And the war is WRONG.
yes well a chance is not enough to convict. You're saying they're guilty, which they may be...but that is to be determined by the court.
True, I'm saying that. But there is always the court of public opinion. I'm just opining that they are guilty. I can't actually CONVICT someone with words.
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Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger:
Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Originally posted by TGO:
Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger:
The final report will be just that. A final report of a murder committed.
what happened to innocent until proven guilty?
That goes out the window when the defendants are soldiers, or anyone else in a position that the media can use them to make Bush or the war look wrong.
Not necessarily. Soldiers are in a position of extreme power. And if there is a chance that they're abusing their power it must be investigated. Guess you don't remember the Abu Grayib prision being closed because of abuses huh?
And the war is WRONG.
Yeah, war does something wrong to a man. It hardens his heart toward humanity. It makes him take out his anger on innocent people.
How DARE Dumbass Dubya force AMERICANS to endure that??? Every time I hear a US military person say "We are over there fighting for our country" it makes me sick! How the FKUCK are we fighting for our country over there? That country has NOTHING to do with ours, and it has been proven over and over. Believe me, I have been searching for a justification to support knocking out that D!ck Tator. But at least be honest as to why we are sending our new high school grads to die a "soldier's death".
Where is the honor in that?
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Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger:
Originally posted by Ray:
That's just it.... its YOUR opinion.. but that, in no way, makes the statement "it will be a murder conviction" any more true.
That I don't doubt that will end up happening is irrelevant.
Once again, semantics and that makes your post irrelevant. 
what pissed in your wheaties, because I don't agree with you?
damn, man.
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How do you know the guy was not an insurgent? They could have very easily mistaken him for one. This is a gorilla war and everything is not black and white. There is lots of gray area and you risk your own life, so sometimes shoot first ask questions later. Remember the saying in Nam "kill them all, let God sort them out" That came about for a reason. 
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Originally posted by stocksvtcontour:
This is a gorilla war and everything is not black and white.
as per your request, a black and white gorilla:
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
No, pointing out to you that because it's your opinion does not mean it is true, is not a symantics argument.
There has been far too much sensationalization of our troops doing wrong over-seas, only to have the investigation prove that they did nothing wrong. All the big media outlets, CNN especially, do nothing but report on Iraq with only negatives. Hell, even their reporting of Zarquawi's death had headlines like "He's Dead, but is it really good for us?" They are so biased in their hatred of Bush that they take it out wherever they can, including our troops.
My question is why can the major news outlets not report anything good about the war? And why can they not save reporting these details of events, after they are confirmed by a court of law?
but what does zarqawis' (SP?) death have anything to do with bush or CNN hating him. Frankly I dont see CNN being that biased. I see them report crap about Clinton when he was in office, I see them report on Bush, same deal. Ive never seen them make any distinction between the two parties in how they report, with maybe the exception of lou dobbs, but he focuses on domestic issues more than anything and well the bush regime hasnt done that well in certain cases. But than again, lou dobbs is more of an editorial thing than real news reporting.
I do agree with the fact they sure like to go to air before anyone has the foggiest idea on whats going on. Than they spend all day reporting "updates" that were the same as 6 hours ago!
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