Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
Originally posted by Doppelg�¤nger:
Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
.....first they aren't soldiers, they are Marines. There IS a difference. Second, I'll await the FINAL report to come out.



Semantics - Soldier 1. somebody serving in army: somebody who serves in a military organization

The final report will be just that. A final report of a murder committed.

Its NOT semantics, but then again, most likely coming from one who's never served you wouldn't understand the difference between a Sailor, an Airmen, a Soldier, or a Marine would you? Each service has a different designation for a reason. I'd like you to walk up to a platoon of Marines, or even a fireteam and call them soldiers, I'd also like for you to do the same to a platoon of Soldiers and call them Marines...I could almost gurantee you'd be limping home or wake up in the hospital.

For the sake of the conversation and these boards, it didn't matter because majority of the readers wouldn't know the difference, hence it was semantic. It's obvious you were offended because you've served at some point or had someone directly related to you serve. I have never served however, I worked for the financial institution of choice for the Marines and Navy for 8.5 years. On a daily basis I worked hand in hand with EVERY level of military personnel from enlisted on up to Admirals and Generals. I worked on and off base stateside and overseas. I've been to practically every major Marine or Naval base there is. When I was at work I always referred to individuals by their rank/title as if I were in the military. I've also lived on a military base before and I was raised around military bases half of my life. To this day I have a lot of very close friends that are military men and/or retired military. So, I DO know the difference. All that prattle you made about tough guy Marines, Fireteam, or Soldiers is pointless. I'd like to give the "Marines" the benefit of the doubt, but it's obvious where the case is headed and what they did. That's the stance I'm taking. As Hightower said, war does ugly things to men. One of those byproducts is deviant and rampant behavior. Abu-Grayib was a prime example.

I've spoken with some of the Marines, Soldiers, Airmen, and Sailors that I know. Their take is that the type of behavior exhibited by the military in the stories in the media is a direct result in the attitudes and dissension that is occurring in the military as a result of them fighting a "war" that they don't necessarily believe in. I recall that the military had troops had to BEG for gear that could help save their lives! How's that for moral eh?

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