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Originally posted by svtizzle4stizzle:
and this isnt a smoker vs. non-smoker debate. i dont smoke. i used to in high school and intermittently afterwards but i never really liked it. i did it because all my friends did it. stupid, i know, that's why i stopped. but i know the effects of it and i dont think its a big deal.
It seems like when it comes to this arguement, some people have off the wall thoughts on it due to the fact they've never tried it. I'm not saying everyone needs to run out at try it, but look at y2ksvt's comments. It's clear he has never used marijuana.
Y2ksvt, whomever gave you your ideas on marijuana misinformed you. Marijuana is less a gateway drug than alcohol. Honestly, the whole gateway drug thing is stupid. If alcohol, cigarettes, and marijuana didn't exist, people would still use other drugs, and I reckon some other drug would be labeled "the" gateway drug.
And as far as driving/functioning while high. Driving while intoxicated by any substance is stupid. Now, just because some people you've seen or heard about claim they're a great driver high, doesn't mean every person that smokes weed goes out and drives high. But just like alcohol, it can be legal but still have laws against it's use while driving.
Though I will say I am most likely a better driver high than most people are sober, I still refrain from doing it as I'm also a better driver sober than I am high. And it's by far easier to drive high than drunk. But again, both are bad. Mmmkay.
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Looking at the whims of government with such a non-critical eye is frightening to me. The actions of government should not be trusted at face value and examined critically.
Moneyed interests, particularly in the petroleum and chemical industries leveraged the paranoias of the Puritanical elements to conduct a wildly successful smear campaign on a most beneficial plant.
Those same Puritanical elements have also established dry jurisdictions where alcohol is not available.
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
You know what I've never seen alcohol do? I've never seen it become a gateway to a bigger/worse drug. 
Mark
there's no need to confuse personal responsibility with the "evil powers" of marijuana.
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Originally posted by TGO:
You're not going to die from taking 3 pills either. I'd been taking 3 pills a night since the day i started. The stuff you get nowadays is so low in actual mdxx that it's not like taking one pill in the 80's and trippin' your face off for 8-12 hours (unless you can get your hands on molly...good luck with that). For the last 2 years i have consistantly taken 3-6 per night, friday and saturday, every week. So probably somewhere around 1500 hits total in the past 3 years. Atleast.
If half of what you hear about weed is untrue, then 80% of what you hear about ecstasy is untrue. Those kids that died didn't dehydrate. They over hydrated, or just overheated themselves. That's just people not knowing their limits. I've never been high enough to not notice myself being in danger...and i've been pretty freakin' high. The main thing to be scared of is that some pills contain alot of meth. That stuff will do you dirty. But, if you want to be an addict as opposed to a casual user, you know your sources and what you're getting. You can buy kits to test whatever you buy and determine it's contents ($20), or just find a trusted source.
CEG is becoming a great place to read detailed quality advice on all sorts of illegal drug related behaviors. Why just today I also learned how to defeat a urinalysis test on CEG.
This is a bad trend. Discussing the effects on society of these behaviors is one thing. Detailed discussion of exactly how to break the law and survive your addiction is another. TGOâ??s little primer on how to successfully maintain an ecstasy addiction is over the line here.
Stop this crap. Itâ??s Interesting stuff to be sure, human tragedy always is, but not what CEG is about. Take it to one of the â??undergroundâ? drug addict forums that Iâ??m sure must exist in abundance.
Think about what Iâ??m saying and youâ??ll know Iâ??m right on this.
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I do not consider it human tragedy, but rather a case study for how antiquated and pointless our punitive drug laws really are.
If our government stayed out of the lives of people light it ought to, there would be no need to evade the intrusions.
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Originally posted by JEDsContour:
This is a bad trend. Discussing the effects on society of these behaviors is one thing. Detailed discussion of exactly how to break the law and survive your addiction is another. TGOâ??s little primer on how to successfully maintain an ecstasy addiction is over the line here.
Think about what Iâ??m saying and youâ??ll know Iâ??m right on this.
there's no instructions on anything. get over yourself.
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Sorry JED, but ignoring the stuff doesn't make it go away and this is the common interests section. Noone has to click and read the thread if they don't want to.
Now, maybe discussing how to defeat a drug test is a little on the edge and that thread was locked. Now, there was nothing wrong with TGO's post. He was not promoting ecstasy addiction/use. He was simply stating a few facts. If anything, maybe there is an ecstasy user on here that will read it and think that buying a test kit is a good idea and it could save their life. Noone is going to read that post, and go out and take ecstasy because of it.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
If anything, maybe there is an ecstasy user on here that will read it and think that buying a test kit is a good idea and it could save their life. Noone is going to read that post, and go out and take ecstasy because of it.
that was the plan, and i thank you for being level headed enough to realise that. I don't see anything wrong with conveying personal struggles on addiction.
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â??Honed Divaâ?
Youâ??ve missed my point completely
Some of what is being posted here is the equivalent (for example) of detailed information on how to break into and steal specific car models - and then sell the parts. Or identity theft. Or other illegal behaviors.
Just donâ??t share your specific experiences and advice on how to be an addict. There is nothing good to come from that here.
This is not a free speech site. I think some guidance from the moderators similar to that provided for pornography and street race posting would be useful.
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Jed, nothing in this thread has been about how to specifically break the law. There is good to come from having people educated about others experiences. TGO's post was just a reply bringing facts ABOUT an addiction up. It was not a how-to on how to be addicted. Come on now. 
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