u can have a completely clear winter and summer tires will still suck in winter. it isnt just snow on the ground that affects them. when the temp gets down usually before 40f the rubber in summer tires becomes useless. the reason they r so good in summer is the reason they suck so bad in winter. and also why winter tires suck in warmer weather. tire compound plus tread pattern. can u get by in a snowless winter with summer tires, yes. would i want u driving behind me when u have to hit your brakes hard, hell no.