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Originally posted by spgoode:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by spgoode:
I and almost all of my friends are social (weekly) pot smokers. All are educated professionals including an attorney, two engineers, a CPA, and a college professor. The ironic thing is that if some people had their way we would be in prison instead of employed taxpayers. None of us have kids and we don't drive when under the influence.
How you react to alcohol or marijuana has a lot more to do with the type of person you are than the drug itself. People with weak character let it consume their lives.
Have fun when you or one of your responsible friends get busted during a drug deal. You gotta get the pot somehow right? Ok, so you grow it... Have fun when your house gets raided. You will get caught in some form... Its just the way the world works. So all of you guys are successful it sounds like, graduated college and got a degree... Real responsible and Mature to potentially throw it all away becuase you want to be "social (weekly) pot smokers." If you get caught, you will regret it...
I guess freedom and liberty are foreign concepts to you.
Yes, so is going 100mph in a school zone, or walking in to someone's house and taken their stuff, or some other similar things. Do absolutely whatever you want and whenever you want without laws will lead to anarachy. Our country was built on laws, whether you agree with them or not. Hell, I HATE 55mph speed limits, but guess what....I abide by them (typically speaking) and if I don't and get caught I suck it up.
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Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
Yes, so is going 100mph in a school zone, or walking in to someone's house and taken their stuff, or some other similar things. Do absolutely whatever you want and whenever you want without laws will lead to anarachy. Our country was built on laws, whether you agree with them or not. Hell, I HATE 55mph speed limits, but guess what....I abide by them (typically speaking) and if I don't and get caught I suck it up.
Putting others or their property at risk is similar to responsbile marijuana use how?
And yes we must follow laws, but if a law is unjust, then you SHOULD fight it. If you chose to not obey it, then yes you have to deal with the consequences. I haven't seen one person here whine about having to deal with the consequences, rather they have said it should be legalized.
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Originally posted by Decepticon:
I seriously would have put money on that Rawbutt was a pothead!
Sounds more like he belongs in Utah rather than being a pothead.
Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
Yes, so is going 100mph in a school zone, or walking in to someone's house and taken their stuff, or some other similar things. Do absolutely whatever you want and whenever you want without laws will lead to anarachy. Our country was built on laws, whether you agree with them or not. Hell, I HATE 55mph speed limits, but guess what....I abide by them (typically speaking) and if I don't and get caught I suck it up.
Way to miss the point!! 
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
You just don't get it do you? Having fun living under a rock?
I dont live under a rock man, I just dont need to blaze a fatty to make my life complete. It is what it is, and I'm fine with that.
I don't need to smoke (nor have I smoked in a long time) to make my life complete either and that is fine. Most if not all pot smokers I know don't need it either to make their life complete. It's about as addictive as chocolate cake. That is not what I'm talking about. Whether you like pot, have never tried it, or don't like it hasn't nothing to do with this.
I'm saying that you've made your stand against marijuana without any research, based on your personal and limited experiences. And it's sad, because that's what much of the American public has done. That's your choice to be small minded and unfortunately it affects others (like if you got to vote against marijuana being legalized).
Do not tell me that I am living under a rock because I do not smoke da ganja... Believe it or not in high school I did a persausive essay for marijauna legalization and still have the speech to this day. I know plenty of the facts. Now that I've grown older and wiser I've realized that there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why it should be legalized. It'll only be one more nuisance that I have to deal with on a daily basis... No thanks, i'm fine without it and wouldnt vote to legalize it
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
Yes, so is going 100mph in a school zone, or walking in to someone's house and taken their stuff, or some other similar things. Do absolutely whatever you want and whenever you want without laws will lead to anarachy. Our country was built on laws, whether you agree with them or not. Hell, I HATE 55mph speed limits, but guess what....I abide by them (typically speaking) and if I don't and get caught I suck it up.
Putting others or their property at risk is similar to responsbile marijuana use how?
The point is, just because you don't agree with X law, doesn't give you a free pass to do whatever you want. I could careless if the [censored] is legal or illegal because I do not have the desire to pollute myself with such things. My whole issue is against those who break laws whether you agree with them or not. Again, its a similar agruement with illegal immigration. They vast majority are law abiding people, however they are breaking a god damn law, period. Just like pot smokers. Responsible or not, the USG has determined it to be an illegal substance, period. Its not a hard concept to grasp.
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Originally posted by RawBurt:
Do not tell me that I am living under a rock because I do not smoke da ganja... Believe it or not in high school I did a persausive essay for marijauna legalization and still have the speech to this day. I know plenty of the facts. Now that I've grown older and wiser I've realized that there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why it should be legalized. It'll only be one more nuisance that I have to deal with on a daily basis... No thanks, i'm fine without it and wouldnt vote to legalize it
 Can you even read!?!? I said it has nothing to do with whether you use, like, have tried marijuana.
Your posts show you have not researched the subject, despite your little paper you wrote in high school.
If you actually have researched it a decent amount, I'd respect your opinion and your opinion would have basis that you could back with something other than your buddy wrecking his car or marijuana being a nuisance to you.
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Originally posted by RawBurt:
Now that I've grown older and wiser
Exactly how old and wise are you?
And the problem is whenever this topic is brought up, the only example people can imagine of a person who smokes weed is the person who abuses it. Abusing any substance, be it controlled or over the counter, is stupid and leads to bad things. A person who can control their smoking (or drinking, or sex, or whatever vice/habit you want) is no worse off than a completely sober person.
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Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
Whether you agree with it or not, you are breaking the law. Your arguement is the same one being debating about illegal immigration. It could potentially ruin your careers, and just because you don't have kids or a wife, it could ruin those possibilities too...
I don't look down upon 'responsible' pot smokers or drinkers, however, I sure as hell don't feel sorry for you when you get caught and start crying about how 'responsible' you are
So your telling me that you have NEVER broken the speed limit in your car? Doubt it! Then you are just as dangerous on the roads as a stoner driver paranoid and doing 5mph below the speed limit.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Do not tell me that I am living under a rock because I do not smoke da ganja... Believe it or not in high school I did a persausive essay for marijauna legalization and still have the speech to this day. I know plenty of the facts. Now that I've grown older and wiser I've realized that there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why it should be legalized. It'll only be one more nuisance that I have to deal with on a daily basis... No thanks, i'm fine without it and wouldnt vote to legalize it
Can you even read!?!? I said it has nothing to do with whether you use, like, have tried marijuana.
Your posts show you have not researched the subject, despite your little paper you wrote in high school.
If you actually have researched it a decent amount, I'd respect your opinion and your opinion would have basis that you could back with something other than your buddy wrecking his car or marijuana being a nuisance to you.
I have not done my research, because i could careless, but I'm curious as to if you could point to some stats that state it would be benifical to legalize it outside of tax revenues and freeing up jail space.
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Originally posted by Bill J. at Team Ford:
Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
Whether you agree with it or not, you are breaking the law. Your arguement is the same one being debating about illegal immigration. It could potentially ruin your careers, and just because you don't have kids or a wife, it could ruin those possibilities too...
I don't look down upon 'responsible' pot smokers or drinkers, however, I sure as hell don't feel sorry for you when you get caught and start crying about how 'responsible' you are
So your telling me that you have NEVER broken the speed limit in your car? Doubt it! Then you are just as dangerous on the roads as a stoner driver paranoid and doing 5mph below the speed limit.
Originally posted by my03TurboFerrariEnzo:
Hell, I HATE 55mph speed limits, but guess what....I abide by them (typically speaking) and if I don't and get caught I suck it up.
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