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I'll put in my guess as to why the spec changed.
The ATF and friction modifier combination was cheaper and got the job done, but maybe not the absolute best performing option.
However, in order to save money due to volume Ford used the cheaper but acceptable solution. It would make sense that they would want their spec to be the same as production. If they spec'ed one fluid and used something cheaper, that would have looked bad.
So, once they were no longer using this "cost reduction", they changed the spec to the better solution.
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Sure. 
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Originally posted by monsoon725:
Perhaps I didnt word that right.
Honey in subpar transmissions yields a transmission that doesn't shift as smoothly as one would hope for.
Just called Ford and asked for "honey"...had no idea what I was talking about...is there an actual proper name?
I just asked the guy to give me the price for a qt of what would be put in something like an 02 SVT Focus and he said $5.19 a quart.....that doesn't seem right.
EDIT: XT-M5-QS. Got it.
your dealership should be shot for not knowing anything. When I went into my dealership and asked if they had the honey in stock they didn't know off the top of their heads, but they looked it up and said they had it in stock for $20 a quart...and the friction modifier if I wanted. People, seriously, just go out and get the honey...it costs a little bit more then the other stuff, but would you rather have a shot tranny?
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Originally posted by elraido:
Originally posted by monsoon725:
Perhaps I didnt word that right.
Honey in subpar transmissions yields a transmission that doesn't shift as smoothly as one would hope for.
Just called Ford and asked for "honey"...had no idea what I was talking about...is there an actual proper name?
I just asked the guy to give me the price for a qt of what would be put in something like an 02 SVT Focus and he said $5.19 a quart.....that doesn't seem right.
EDIT: XT-M5-QS. Got it.
your dealership should be shot for not knowing anything. When I went into my dealership and asked if they had the honey in stock they didn't know off the top of their heads, but they looked it up and said they had it in stock for $20 a quart...and the friction modifier if I wanted. People, seriously, just go out and get the honey...it costs a little bit more then the other stuff, but would you rather have a shot tranny?
Umm no.
I wouldn't rather have a shot tranny either, but HONEY isn't the only good stuff.
Just take the specs and use fluids that meet or exceed those specs. Ford cannot violate a warranty if you used a fluid that meets or exceeds their published specs. Theres a federal law for that crap!
So if you want the Honey buy it, but if you want alternatives then research and match the specs and pick one you do like.
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Where did the name "Honey" actually come from? I'm running Royal Purple but when I went to my dealership a while back to find out the price for Honey, they had no clue what I was talking about either. They did actually find the fluid, but nothing in their books or any catalog they showed me ever gave it the name Honey. 
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It was just made up on the forums because of how it looks. 
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yup...golden colored fluid
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