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Originally posted by FoShoOFTaziMap!:
We went into Iraq for WMD and when those weren't there we changed the story to this being all about 9/11...this war in Iraq has been a political JOKE! 
If you believe that those people in Iraq are ever going to turn into a safe and stable democracy then you are in denial.
There has been tremendous distortion of what the President actually said about Iraq..that it was all about WMD and nothing else. I suggest reading Bush's presentation to the UN, Sept 2002 - several months before invasion. Look at the broken UN resolutions, discussion of assasination attempts on several leaders, the emphasis on Sadam as a destabilizing force..
"Events can turn in one of two ways: If we fail to act in the face of danger, the people of Iraq will continue to live in brutal submission. The regime will have new power to bully and dominate and conquer its neighbors, condemning the Middle East to more years of bloodshed and fear. The regime will remain unstable -- the region will remain unstable, with little hope of freedom, and isolated from the progress of our times. With every step the Iraqi regime takes toward gaining and deploying the most terrible weapons, our own options to confront that regime will narrow. And if an emboldened regime were to supply these weapons to terrorist allies, then the attacks of September the 11th would be a prelude to far greater horrors.
If we meet our responsibilities, if we overcome this danger, we can arrive at a very different future. The people of Iraq can shake off their captivity. They can one day join a democratic Afghanistan and a democratic Palestine, inspiring reforms throughout the Muslim world. These nations can show by their example that honest government, and respect for women, and the great Islamic tradition of learning can triumph in the Middle East and beyond. And we will show that the promise of the United Nations can be fulfilled in our time."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912-1.html
While no WMD were discovered, the other arguments hold true. And as it turns out, he was manipulating the system (oil for food program) to the tune of 21 billion dollars, far worse than we realized and he was bribing at least 3 UN member nations to end sanctions and block UN action. Hans Blix never talks about THIS. Charles Deulfer's final report made it clear Sadam was going to reconstitute WMD after lifting sanctions. Had we not invaded, the evidence suggests the trajectory of Iraq was toward continued unchecked utilization of UN (US) dollars intended to feed his people to expand his conventional arsenal (which was also greater than expected), remove sanction thru bribery, reconstitution a WMD program, and fund Hamas/Hesbola suicide bombers. We would look forward to more murder and mass graves (already filled when we arrived with 100s of thousands of men women and children), sanctuary for terrorists (Al Zarquawi and his "replacement" Al Masri both came from fighting us in Afganistan to Iraq before our invasion and they are not the only 2)and ongoing regional instability. With his sons (arguably more sadistic than Saddam) entrenched as sucessor and with the majority Shia/Kurds firmly quelched, his anti-democratic dynasty was assured for decades to come.
The Bush doctrine's central tenat is that democracy is the antidote for jihadism. That free and open societies do not generate this problem on a large scale, nor do they support terroism. WMD or no, Sadam was an obstruction to this policy that was nessesary to remove. Along with restoring the teeth to UN resolutions, eliminating a mass murderer, AND WMD, that is why Bush said we were going to Iraq.
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I was hoping he would be killed or captured after he beheaded the people with a knife. He deserved worse.
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DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda in Iraq named a successor following the killing of the group's leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, according to an Internet statement on Monday.
"The shura council of al Qaeda in Iraq unanimously agreed on Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, to be a successor to Sheikh Abu Musab al-Zarqawi," said a statement signed by al Qaeda and posted on a Web site frequently used by Islamist militants.
"Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Muhajir is a good brother, has a history in jihad and is knowledgeable. We ask God that he ... continue what Sheikh Abu Musab began," it said.
Muhajir, little known in the West, was not among the names that al Qaeda experts had expected as Zarqawi's likely successor.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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