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Originally posted by TGO:
some other douchebag will be appointed, and we'll kill him - and so on, and so forth, until we are out of that wretched country - and osama is dead.
Yes, they have a second in command stepping up already. He trained in afghanistan prior to coming to iraq. He was loyal to al-Zaqauri.
Since we already have him named. I guess the USA is already placing taps on his face!! He won't last long
It was only when Al-zaqauri was cornered and jailed by americans. He left the camp being released mistakenly. Without us knowing it was him. Scared of being caught again and being weaken my the us-led invasion. He decided to give up his fight alone. He contacted osamsa for money and funding of militarty weapons with a constant supply of explosives. osama only played a role in iraq when in 2004 AL-zaqauri decided to join with him. This is when he stepped up the attacks in 04-05. This is when he labled him self "The al-Qaida of Iraq".
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Originally posted by TGO:
Originally posted by Rickson:
This was supporting evidence that sadaam was funding/harbouring a terrriost group in his country.
just like the evidence of WMD's right?? oh wait...there was none!
Are you still one of those people. Is that all you got to say??
He harboured a terroist organization. That is good enough for me to invade. Can you say alot of bombings under his command prior to our invasion.
I guess i will stick to 1 subject like you are. We are talking about al-zaqauri. If you want to bring other none afilliated arguments into this thread about alzaquari, please continue. It shows that you are uneducated about this matter.
Please stop. GO DO YOU RESEARCH!!!
You still havn't supported your claim of the USA creating al-zaqauri?? Prove it please.
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Originally posted by TGO:
Originally posted by JaTo:
Finally, some good news coming out of Iraq. I didn't think the media had it in them to plaster up anything positive on the topic...
what's positive??
we killed some dude who was only there as a result of OUR invasion??
some other douchebag will be appointed, and we'll kill him - and so on, and so forth, until we are out of that wretched country - and osama is dead.
You're a complete and utter moron if you can't see that eradicating one of the most visible and important leaders of Al-Qaeda in Iraq is a good thing...
No, Hussein wasn't in cahoots with Al-Zarqawi or Al-Qaeda as ideologically they were completely different, even though their methods of exerting their will and power upon the population were VERY similar. Furthermore, Al-Zarqawi had been running in and out of Iraq before we attacked and Al-Qaeda did have some presence in Iraq in the Kurdish-controlled areas that Hussein couldn't keep under control. Were any of these the MAIN reason we invaded?
No.
Hussein flaunting his disdain over countless UN resolutions concerning WMD across a decade (which every intelligence agency on the planet said he had and was hiding) and our concern over what he could do with them pushed this administration and the majority of Congress and the House into voting to take pre-emptive action.
That's what lead to our invasion that was supported by the vast majority of the American public and our elected officials in office. The fact that the intel was dead-wrong is something that continues to haunt the reasons behind our aggression to this very day and has placed the US, Britian and our allies in a very compromising situation in that we made a mess (well, more of a mess) of the place on misinformation and we are now stuck doing the right but difficult thing of trying to ensure that Iraq doesn't become the Middle-Eastern equivalent of Somalia for decades to come.
It is a mess and will continue to be a mess for some time, but it will hopefully be less of a bloody mess now that one of the major ringleaders and one of his trusted lieutenants are now taking dirt-naps.
Yes, this IS good news for the Iraqi people and the allied troops that are there because it's proven that the insurgency is not untouchable and it's hopefully put a lot of fear and doubt within Al-Qaeda, which is perhaps the best thing that this has done.
There apparently are traitors in their midst and they know it for a fact now. This means they spend cycles and effort in rooting out the mole and not killing civilians and our troops. The best-case scenario is that they utterly shred themselves apart in Iraq because of the fear of each other...
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Originally posted by Rickson:
Please stop. GO DO YOU RESEARCH!
Here's a chance to practice what you preach smart guy! 
wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahri
Here...I'll save you some time.
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In 1998 he formally merged Egyptian Islamic Jihad into al-Qaeda. According to reports by a former al-Qaeda member, he has worked in the al-Qaeda organization since its inception and was a senior member of the group's shura council.
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Originally posted by Rickson:
Please stop. GO DO YOU RESEARCH!
Here's a chance to practice what you preach smart guy!
wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahri
Here...I'll save you some time.
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In 1998 he formally merged Egyptian Islamic Jihad into al-Qaeda. According to reports by a former al-Qaeda member, he has worked in the al-Qaeda organization since its inception and was a senior member of the group's shura council.
Umm...
...wrong Al. Might want to try that one again.
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Originally posted by JaTo:
Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Originally posted by Rickson:
Please stop. GO DO YOU RESEARCH!
Here's a chance to practice what you preach smart guy!
wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahri
Here...I'll save you some time.
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In 1998 he formally merged Egyptian Islamic Jihad into al-Qaeda. According to reports by a former al-Qaeda member, he has worked in the al-Qaeda organization since its inception and was a senior member of the group's shura council.
Umm...
...wrong Al. Might want to try that one again.
You beat me too it.
Wrong guy my friend, try something else smart guy 
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My bad. The right guy met and befriended Bin Laden in 1989 in Afghanistan. Had confirmed financing from Bin Laden in 1999. Settle in northern Iraq in 2002. Early in 2002, there were unverified reports from Afghan Northern Alliance members that Zarqawi had been killed by a missile attack in Afghanistan. Many news sources repeated the claim. Later, Kurdish groups claimed that Zarqawi had not died in the missile strike, but had been severely injured, and went to Baghdad in 2002 to have his leg amputated. On October 7, 2002, the day before Congress voted to give President Bush permission to invade Iraq, Bush gave a speech in Cincinnati, Ohio, that repeated this claim as fact. This was one of several of President Bush's primary examples of ways Saddam Hussein had aided, funded, and harbored al-Qaeda. My point is unchanged.   His connection to al qaeda is never rock solid and there is some speculation that al qaeda dropped the dime on him that lead to his death.
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
My bad.
The right guy
met and befriended Bin Laden in 1989 in Afghanistan.
Had confirmed financing from Bin Laden in 1999.
Settle in northern Iraq in 2002.
Early in 2002, there were unverified reports from Afghan Northern Alliance members that Zarqawi had been killed by a missile attack in Afghanistan. Many news sources repeated the claim. Later, Kurdish groups claimed that Zarqawi had not died in the missile strike, but had been severely injured, and went to Baghdad in 2002 to have his leg amputated. On October 7, 2002, the day before Congress voted to give President Bush permission to invade Iraq, Bush gave a speech in Cincinnati, Ohio, that repeated this claim as fact. This was one of several of President Bush's primary examples of ways Saddam Hussein had aided, funded, and harbored al-Qaeda.
My point is unchanged.
His connection to al qaeda is never rock solid and there is some speculation that al qaeda dropped the dime on him that lead to his death.
According to news(Druge)sources it was Al-Qaeda members caught in pakistan that help give information to the pakistani authorities. Which then turned it over the USA. This information helped us track him and other officials in his organization.
It was 1 specific person which they tracked that kept going to the house he was staying in. He made frequent visits according to reuters. That is when our generals made the decision to drop bombs over baghdad(dancing to the song).
Then we went in and made that it was the mastermind himself. Based on his tatoos and his bloody face!! 
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Originally posted by Corbett:
Originally posted by MapOfTazi ohhh right:
The problem is...we created more terrorism in Iraq than was there previously. 
Gloom and doom liberals are in full force.
Sorry Tim, but lets not sugar coat the situation...it's fawked!!!! I'm just a realistic kind of person. Your gloom and doom is probably gay marriage and stem cell right?!
You prob believe that gay marriage is wrong, stem cell is evil, and that only god can save you...sorry I live in THIS world. All you do is say, "ah evil liberal" and add nothing to the discussion besides that. Great work!!!
We went into Iraq for WMD and when those weren't there we changed the story to this being all about 9/11...this war in Iraq has been a political JOKE!
I don't like the idea that we went to war and took the lives of many young soldiers because of some cowboy president, but that is the reality of the situation! How did the whole world police/domination thing work out for the Brits?!?!
If you believe that those people in Iraq are ever going to turn into a safe and stable democracy then you are in denial.
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Days before death, Al Zarqawi had turned against Shi'ite Hizbullah
For the first time, Al Qaida has publicly expressed opposition to the Iranian-sponsored Hizbullah. Before he was killed by U.S. forces on June 7, Al Qaida network chief Abu Mussib Al Zarqawi had warned Hizbullah to disarm and urged Sunnis in Lebanon to oppose the Shi'ite group.
"Oh, Sunnis," Al Zarqawi said in a four-hour tape. "Prepare to get rid of the infidel snakes and their poison."
this was interesting.
The individual is getting 25million for teling them who the man that visited Al-zarqawi was.
Wow i hope the person who told wasn't from hizbullah.
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