well, since I am the poster of this topic....what is FAIR market value for a car like this. It isn't in perfect condition but it doesn't look like it has been treated like a red headed step child. I know KBB and NADA values are to be taken with a grain of salt. We bought my fiance's Subaru from a dealer where according to NADA and KBB it was valued between $4,500 and $6,000...we got it for $2000....and it still runs great.