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Frankly I buy it. I just see it happenning so easily. But, I step down, as Politics (21st century Religion) is not my cup of tea.
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Originally posted by JaTo: Well, if it comes from a Kennedy and the paragon of unbiased reporting that the Rolling Stone serves as, I'm convinced.
I'm the last person to defend the Kennedys as a whole. Lots of weird stuff there. But Robert Kennedy Jr. is respected by just about everyone. The smear-by-association thing doesn't work with RFK Jr., JaTo. He is by all accounts a man of great integrity.
Rolling Stone publishes some serious articles. Can you provide us with some examples of false stories they have printed?
Originally posted by JaTo: The GAO, Democrats and Republicans in Congress that certified the vote for President
Logical problem with your point here: the election was certified a long time ago, before most of these facts were known. You need to factually address the substance of the article, JaTo, or you're just slinging mud.
Originally posted by JaTo: and the VP, and the Supreme Court must have been in on the whole thing the entire time...
Huh?
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Originally posted by caltour2: ...I'm the last person to defend the Kennedys as a whole. Lots of weird stuff there. But Robert Kennedy Jr. is respected by just about everyone. The smear-by-association thing doesn't work with RFK Jr., JaTo. He is by all accounts a man of great integrity.
What's he done lately, apart from keeping a wind generation project out of his own back yard, despite his Sierra Club background and sworn environmentalist leanings?
Integrity, indeed. He's a stalwart of "not in my back yard" integrity...
Pardon me if I find the author and the publisher a touch suspect and that's despite his obvious political stripes.
Originally posted by caltour2: Rolling Stone publishes some serious articles. Can you provide us with some examples of false stories they have printed?
LOL! Can you provide me with an article in Rolling Stone that doesn't come from deep left-field? Lets just say I don't typically go to a music glam magazine for weighty political fare...
Why didn't The Atlantic or The New Republic pick this one up???
Originally posted by caltour2: Logical problem with your point here: the election was certified a long time ago, before most of these facts were known. You need to factually address the substance of the article, JaTo, or you're just slinging mud.
BS; there were 2 hearings soon after the election over this mess and there were plenty of rumblings from the Democrats over the exit poll discrepancies in many places.
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What'dya know. We trust a music-based magazine for our political banter nowadays. Shoot. I'm calling Toyota in the morning to find out what the best new cereal on the market is.  -SAV
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Originally posted by caltour2: Tell me how the facts I raised are wrong. Show me how my analysis is wrong. Don't just blurt out an opinion; any ninny can do that. Show me you critical thinking skills! Support your opinion with facts and logical reasoning. Make me proud of our educational system!
That's what's wrong with society today.....
It's a "I think this way prove me wrong", mentaltity.
Instead you should develop your way of thinking through reaserch and then try to prove yourself wrong.
If you can't find information to dispell your theory after searching, then use that to develope your opinion.
I think contours suck, Prove me wrong.
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho: Can u ask him to measure his shaft and compare it to your shaft?
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Originally posted by BlackBirdRacing: Originally posted by caltour2: Tell me how the facts I raised are wrong. Show me how my analysis is wrong. Don't just blurt out an opinion; any ninny can do that. Show me you critical thinking skills! Support your opinion with facts and logical reasoning. Make me proud of our educational system!
That's what's wrong with society today.....
It's a "I think this way prove me wrong", mentaltity.
Instead you should develop your way of thinking through reaserch and then try to prove yourself wrong.
If you can't find information to dispell your theory after searching, then use that to develope your opinion.
I think contours suck, Prove me wrong.
Contours do suck. And, we spend money to make them even better suckers! My first mod was a KKM. Then my contour could suck even more. Some people aren't happy with sucking though. They feel Contours should blow. First they tried mechanical devices to blow into the suck hole. Then someone found a better way. Now there are Contours that have air driven things that blow even more effeciently into the suck holes.
I can't prove you wrong Bird! Youe are correct sir. At least in my opinion.
I can have an opinion can't I. Do I need proof to support my opinion?
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Originally posted by caltour2: Originally posted by jthursby: Wah wah wah wah.  Go file it next to the "we were never on the moon" archives.  Jim T.
Originally posted by Coolkuehl3: Why do these crazy liberal democrats keep bashing President Bush
C'mon, you guys. You're attacking me for raising this issue, but none of you have given ANY factual reasons for your opinions. Surely you must have some logical reasons.
Tell me how the facts I raised are wrong. Show me how my analysis is wrong. Don't just blurt out an opinion; any ninny can do that. Show me you critical thinking skills! Support your opinion with facts and logical reasoning. Make me proud of our educational system!
Facts YOU raised? YOUR analysis? You're right, any ninny can blurt out an opinion just as any ninny can post a news article from a music mag from a Kennedy and say the case is closed.
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Originally posted by caltour2: The press today has all but abandoned investigative journalism. This is no secret; it has been widely discussed in critical journals. Let me know if you want more information on this.
This part is true. Now they just make stuff up. The New York Times, LA Times, and CBS have all been caught doing it since GWB took office. I believe that those are three of the biggest media outlets in the country, if not the world, right?
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of course he isn't the president. he's not even a he! he's a robot! http://www.witze-welt.de/videos/showvideo.php?id=53
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And it was posted on the internet so I KNOW ITS TRUE!!!
sad state of affairs when stuff like this can spread like wildfire through those that will say "open your eyes.. see the truth.. don't be so gullible" and all the while they are doing that exact opposite by spreading this crap.
Don't get me wrong, now.. If this had come up for Kerry (had he won the election) and 6 years later people said this.. I'd be saying the same thing.. its still crap (the equivalent of grocery store rack tabloids, really), regardless of who its about.
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