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Alright... I didn't take the time to sit there and explain to you (which I didn't think I needed to) why I was angry.
I spent 6 years in the military, including a tour at the Pentagon, protecting anyone that needed it. I saw the corruption, the hacking, and the political failures on a daily basis. I am incredibly upset that the electoral system is failing, and that our military future is, in one way or another, in the hands of the next president (who, presumably, can be picked according to political pull, and not votes... but when is that any different than any OTHER situation?)
This is not the issue. The issue is that this is not now, nor has it ever been, a "let's be upset about politics, together" forum. It may be "common interests" and there MAY BE a ton of people on this forum that agree with you.. but to post it on here as "IT WAS RIGGED.. IT WAS STOLEN!!" so adamently, not presenting it as "hey... anyone find any merit in this? Anyone here agree with this, like I do?" That's like.. uh... flamebaiting those who don't agree, huh?
But I didn't bring that up... I said.. there are plenty of other places that you can get people to afree with you.. or voice that they DO agree with you, on another forum.
Oh.. and please.. don't try to tell me how much I care about our system.
Edit: If you are truly as upset with this new information as you try to say you are, instead of saying "Bush isn't really president" (which he is.. regardless), try bringing up the information in a manner that you can CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, instead of ypping about what already happened. And, no.. I wasn't upset... now I am.
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Are you trying to tell me that Rolling Stone is your quinticential proof that the Republican war machine steamrolled the democratic vote in 2004??
Are you also going to tell me that the blatantly right-wing mainstream media quashed the story & gagged the people who were denied ballots for the last two years??? Those Republican boot licking bastids at CBS! They're working for GW!!
caltour, grow up. It'll be much easier on all the rest of us.
Go find a Republican blog to post your flaim bait on....
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by PDXSVT: Certainly, Ray, you're NOT suggesting it's OK to smear in order to falsly garner votes from the ignorant?
This topic may not be your cup of tea, but to post it in the first place as facts is nothing more than flaim baiting as untimely does not hold water. We all have elections coming up soon, and democrats are despirate to try anything and think the American public is a bunch of mind-numbed, booger-eating neandertauls. Despirate enough to think this is a current issue in its implications for the 2006 and the following 2008 elections. That's retard stuff rather than "stupid."
You feel this topic does not belong in a car site. Fine. Say that and please ban anybody that posts outright political propaganda as it does not belong on a car site. But you should have stopped this a long time ago.
Fixed! 
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Originally posted by TourDeForce: Are you trying to tell me that Rolling Stone is your quinticential proof that the Republican war machine steamrolled the democratic vote in 2004??
*collapses laughing*
And did I read it right that it's a KENNEDY that's blowing the whistle on this? STOP THE F-ING PRESSES, WE'VE GOT A SCOOP!
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Originally posted by Jeb Hoge: Originally posted by TourDeForce: Are you trying to tell me that Rolling Stone is your quinticential proof that the Republican war machine steamrolled the democratic vote in 2004??
*collapses laughing*
And did I read it right that it's a KENNEDY that's blowing the whistle on this? STOP THE F-ING PRESSES, WE'VE GOT A SCOOP!
You read it right.
Gotta say one thing for caltour, he gets the blood moving...
Laughter is good for you!
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce: Are you trying to tell me that Rolling Stone is your quinticential proof that the Republican war machine steamrolled the democratic vote in 2004??
Are you also going to tell me that the blatantly right-wing mainstream media quashed the story & gagged the people who were denied ballots for the last two years??? Those Republican boot licking bastids at CBS! They're working for GW!!
caltour, grow up. It'll be much easier on all the rest of us.
Go find a Republican blog to post your flaim bait on....
ROLLING STONE?!?!? Holy tree-hugging, haven't showered in a week, smelly-azz hippie, rusty microbus driving, crack smoking, bs rag that is!!! Pass the pipe dude! ROLLING STONE?!?!? Be serious, Is that where you "polish up" on world events? You should read Cosmo, at least there you can learn "365 ways to pleasure your partner." No wait, you can't BE serious. Where have all these "people" that were prevented from voting in 04 been hiding? Helping out Santa at the North pole? No, wait wait wait, they must all work at Rolling Stoned. Thats it. Or maybe one of the little pixies escaped from his North pole torture chamber and he blabbed all he knew to the Rolling Stoners. Oh my God! I'm going to call my congressman right now and straighten this all out for you. fell better? 
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Originally posted by jthursby: ROLLING STONE?!?!? Holy tree-hugging, haven't showered in a week, smelly-azz hippie, rusty microbus driving, crack smoking, bs rag that is!!! Pass the pipe dude! ROLLING STONE?!?!? Be serious, Is that where you "polish up" on world events? You should read Cosmo, at least there you can learn "365 ways to pleasure your partner." No wait, you can't BE serious. Where have all these "people" that were prevented from voting in 04 been hiding? Helping out Santa at the North pole? No, wait wait wait, they must all work at Rolling Stoned. Thats it. Or maybe one of the little pixies escaped from his North pole torture chamber and he blabbed all he knew to the Rolling Stoners. Oh my God! I'm going to call my congressman right now and straighten this all out for you. fell better? 
Jim T.
Don't forget all the other evil things that have been proven time and again by caltour & his buddies. GW hates the illegal immigrants too. Naw, I take that back, he likes them. They taste just like chicken!
And of course the war is all about oil. But I'm not complaining. I just love payin' $1 a gallon for premium because of all the cheap oil we're pumpin' out of Iraq.
Then there's global warming - even though the data for the last 10 years shows an overall cooling trend, that's just a glitch. Oh, and the cooling that was taking place in the 60s & 70s, that doesn't count either. Bad thermometers or sup'm. Anyway, it's GWs fault 'cause he shoulda done somethin' about it & didn't.
Bastid. He coulda saved us all, now it's too late. Oh, did I mention that? Ya, it's too late to do anything about global warming, the damage is done. The ozone hole is opening up & we're all gonna get microwaved like a frozen burrito. Well, when the ozone hole opens again. I know it hasn't been around in the last few years, but it's still too late to change anything & it's all GWs fault. Long as you understand that....
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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As indicated above... Without Davo, we'll still see vehement reactions to the article and its author posted.
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Originally posted by caltour2: This article explains just exactly how Republican operatives stole the 2004 election: Robert Kennedy explains how Republican operatives stole the election by shredding democrats' voter registration forms, refusing to provide ballots to voters in Democratic strongholds, illegally failing to count ballots from pro-Kerry precincts, and rigging computerized voting machines.
Remember how the exit polls showed Kerry way ahead on election day, and then Bush inexplicably won? It was stolen, my friends. Stolen.
Well, if it comes from a Kennedy and the paragon of unbiased reporting that the Rolling Stone serves as, I'm convinced. The GAO, Democrats and Republicans in Congress that certified the vote for President and the VP, and the Supreme Court must have been in on the whole thing the entire time...
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Originally posted by TourDeForce: Are you trying to tell me that Rolling Stone is your quinticential proof that the Republican war machine steamrolled the democratic vote in 2004??
No. Many publications have already reported extensively on almost all of these facts. I posted the Rolling Stone article because it neatly sums up the elements of the story. And it is written for everyone, not just for policy wonks.
Originally posted by TourDeForce: Are you also going to tell me that the blatantly right-wing mainstream media quashed the story & gagged the people who were denied ballots for the last two years??? Those Republican boot licking bastids at CBS! They're working for GW!!
Your satire is not far from the truth. The mainstream media is owned by very wealthy corporations, which are owned and run mainly by Bush supporters. As a result, very little gets reported that the business and political elite don't want us to know.
The press today has all but abandoned investigative journalism. This is no secret; it has been widely discussed in critical journals. Let me know if you want more information on this.
I remember 35-40 years ago when big media pursued investigations into just about everything. The castration of investigative journalism is a relatively new phenomenon, and I'm not sure our democracy will survive it.
Originally posted by TourDeForce: caltour, grow up.
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