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Originally posted by MaddMike2:

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Originally posted by SVT SNOB:

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Maybe if American cars were built better and not cut so many corners people wouldn't be buying imports .

I respect you for putting your life on the line to protect your country .

Aaron

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Thanks for the personal support, but I don't think that Quality is an issue anymore, at one time I would have agreed with you, American cars through the 80's sucked, but not anymore. I work in a wholesale parts warehouse, I'm an inside salesman, we sell only to jobbers not the general public and by far we get more calls for foreign parts for newer cars 2000 and up than American cars, plus the foreign parts with few exceptions are far more expencive to repalace.

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True, I will admit the domestic cars are getting better in quality, but they have not reached the level of the imports. Compare a BMW X5 to a Navigator (both cost the same), the quality of the X5 is much better then the Navigator. Foreign car parts will always cost more because I don't think there is anyway around it. The worst thing about foreign cars is when a part is back ordered it take so bloody long example BMW it takes 7-10 business days , where as my Ford takes 2days if a part is back ordered .

On a side note which foreign car manufactures would you say you get the most calls about?

Aaron

Originally posted by Tisby:

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If some people don't keep their mouths shut, once again we're gonna get a decent thread locked...

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Originally posted by sigma:

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So you instead suggest buying from Ford and GM, two companies that provided Nazi Germany with huge amounts of war material and continued to produce for Hitler while he rampaged across Europe. One of the first signs of an impending war was the fact that Ford began churning out military trucks from its' factories in full force. And Ford became one of Nazi Germany's largest suppliers of military equipment.


I had not heard that before, give me some reference material to back that up. But the question is did they continue to supprt the Germans after we declared war on them. Prewar commerce was what it was. If Ford and GM supplied material to Germany before they were the enemy that was normal business that our government aloud to happen. Japan was one of the largest buyers of our scrap metal, a lot of our guys were killed by ammunition that at one time was a Hudson, Cadilac, Ford what ever. I'm sure you can find a lot of companies that did that also. Unless I'm really off the mark I do not believe any American company sold to our enemies after the war started.

As to Henery not liking Jews so what, unless you have proof that he went to Germany and turned on the valve to the gas chamber how he felt about Jews has no bearing on the Ford Motor company. I'am sure that you can find prejudice people in every company in the world. As long as I don't see Fred from the local Ford dealer wearing a sheet I don't care, I would not buy a Ford from him, I would just go to another Ford dealer.

An observation I have made after working two years at a primarialy Jewish Country Club and also at two different times working for companies owned by Jewish families and also making a trip to Israel, they must not be overly conserned by Germany or the holicaust for that matter. Why do I say that, because there were a lot of BMW's and MB's in the parking lot of country club, The owner of GOJO drives a BMW, the owner and most of his family of Fresh Mark inc. drives MB's and the car of choise for taxie's in Israel was an MB. So if they are not conserned by anti-semitizim why should it bother me. As a side not to your way of thinking no African-American should drive a German car because Germany was also a hot bed of racism tword blacks but that does not hold water either as the VP of Stark State College just bought a top of the line MB and he's you guest it African-American.

Originally posted by MapOf........:

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Originally posted by Tisby:

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If some people don't keep their mouths shut, once again we're gonna get a decent thread locked...

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This really shouldn't be locked over a coupe of bad apples. The problem lies with mods who are given ridiculous rules to stand behind.

Back on that note. My grandfather fought the Japs in WW2 and he has owned 2 toyota corollas. One of which went well over 200k miles. My father served too...he owns a honda and will soon buy an Acura. The killers from WW2 in germany are dead my friend. Get over it and get your head outta you azz.

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Originally posted by MapOf........:

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Originally posted by MaddMike2:

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Hey how about buying AMERICAN, You don't need to buy an EVO to stroke your EGO try a Mustang GT, or a Vette, or a Monte SS SuperCharged.
All you guys gripe about illegal labor and out sourcing but then you turn around and buy Jap and German cars, tires and what not. Looks like a double standard there. Anyone that buys off shore cars haS NO RIGHT TO complain when their job ends up over in India.
Don't flog a dead horse with they are made in the USA, the money goes right back to Japan and don't kid yourself The Japanes business structure does not give a Fat Rat's Ass about Americans, nor does the Germans for that matter.

I'm a paritaly disabled VET, I was part of DESERT STORM, I lost a small peace of my body fighting for your right to buy Jap and German cars,

That is nothing compared to the men and women that died in WWI from GERMAN bullets or the ones in WWII that died from BMW powered fighter planes, or were run down by VW built vehicals. Lets not forget either the ones that died in WWII in the Phillipines killed buy Japanes that they had already surrendered to, or how the Japanes did not properly mark their POW transport ships, they were marked as Munistion ships so that we would kill our own POW's, oh and the next time you buy a Toyota remember that one of their Vice presidents ate the liver of one our captured fighter pilots in some Busito(?) ritual, while he was a Base comander, I don't think that the 5 years in a War crimes trial sentance was enough, Oh and by the way Every Japanes war criminal has a Statue displayed in his honor.

So buy your Jap and German cars, give money to the same people that very likely killed some of your own family members, but remember that Brave Americans died for your right to give money to their KILLERS.

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Wow, you are so ignorant.

And I really hate to say that to a vet on memorial day, but well w/e...

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I'm curious as to what you base your judgment that I'm ignorant? Did I quote any misinformation? No I did not. Did I state several of my opinions? Yes I did. I did not run spell check so there might be some miss spelled words but that in its self does not indicate that I'm ignorant.

I could make the observation that a bunch of white boys dressed like street punks throwing gang hand signs and then posting the pictures on the net is ignorant, but that would be in error, as I have no idea what so ever as to the level of IQ of any of the kids in the picture. A more accurat statement would be that the posting of the picture was stupid and that the people in the picture look stupid. But then again that is just my opinion and should not bother you at all, as to the fact that you think I'm ignorant does not trouble me in the slightest.

Originally posted by SVT SNOB:

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Originally posted by MaddMike2:

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Originally posted by SVT SNOB:

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Maybe if American cars were built better and not cut so many corners people wouldn't be buying imports .

I respect you for putting your life on the line to protect your country .

Aaron

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Thanks for the personal support, but I don't think that Quality is an issue anymore, at one time I would have agreed with you, American cars through the 80's sucked, but not anymore. I work in a wholesale parts warehouse, I'm an inside salesman, we sell only to jobbers not the general public and by far we get more calls for foreign parts for newer cars 2000 and up than American cars, plus the foreign parts with few exceptions are far more expencive to repalace.

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True, I will admit the domestic cars are getting better in quality, but they have not reached the level of the imports. Compare a BMW X5 to a Navigator (both cost the same), the quality of the X5 is much better then the Navigator. Foreign car parts will always cost more because I don't think there is anyway around it. The worst thing about foreign cars is when a part is back ordered it take so bloody long example BMW it takes 7-10 business days , where as my Ford takes 2days if a part is back ordered .

On a side note which foreign car manufactures would you say you get the most calls about?

Aaron

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Kia's are up there along with Toyota emmission parts and 4-Runner brake and suspension, MB's exhaust mufflers and cat's for some reason and VW Passat brakes and suspension.Those are just the ones that come to mind.

Originally posted by MaddMike2:

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Originally posted by SVT SNOB:

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Originally posted by MaddMike2:

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Originally posted by SVT SNOB:

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Maybe if American cars were built better and not cut so many corners people wouldn't be buying imports .

I respect you for putting your life on the line to protect your country .

Aaron

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Thanks for the personal support, but I don't think that Quality is an issue anymore, at one time I would have agreed with you, American cars through the 80's sucked, but not anymore. I work in a wholesale parts warehouse, I'm an inside salesman, we sell only to jobbers not the general public and by far we get more calls for foreign parts for newer cars 2000 and up than American cars, plus the foreign parts with few exceptions are far more expencive to repalace.

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True, I will admit the domestic cars are getting better in quality, but they have not reached the level of the imports. Compare a BMW X5 to a Navigator (both cost the same), the quality of the X5 is much better then the Navigator. Foreign car parts will always cost more because I don't think there is anyway around it. The worst thing about foreign cars is when a part is back ordered it take so bloody long example BMW it takes 7-10 business days , where as my Ford takes 2days if a part is back ordered .

On a side note which foreign car manufactures would you say you get the most calls about?

Aaron

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Kia's are up there along with Toyota emmission parts and 4-Runner brake and suspension, MB's exhaust mufflers and cat's for some reason and VW Passat brakes and suspension.Those are just the ones that come to mind.

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Interesting, thanks for the info .

Aaron