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Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by Zetec_B:
It makes no sense to me why they would build SVT's in a different section of the factory or give them special treatment. It's just another Contour that they had to put some minor different parts on. The differences between the SVTs and the plainjane Contours were so miniscule during production,they probably hardly even noticed it was an SVT rolling down the line.
As for myself,I build the seats for thy Chrysler LX cars (300,Charger,Magnum),and we run the seats for all 3 cars down the same lines,whether they be 60/40 split rears,fullback rears,Charger,Magnum,300,power buckets,manual buckets,whatever. The only differences in our day is the occasional run of SRT-8 seats we get,which require a small amount of extra work,like making sure the proper larger bolstered foam is used,they take a few extra hog rings,you have to take more care rolling the covers,ad then when the seats are done being build,they are taken offline and ironed and finessed until they look as perfect as we can get them,whereas all other seats just roll down the line. At the Chrysler assembly plant,they run all 3 cars down the same lines as well,300s,Chargers,Magnums,and an SRT8 will follow a base model SE down the line. It's just another car to us/them,it makes no difference. I beleive all DCX assembly has to do is a little bit of paperwork for the SRT8s,like Ford did with the SVTs. Up until recently,we had tracking sheets for the SRT8 seats when we built them,but they are no longer used. As far as I know all the SRT8 cars have a limited production sequence badge in the engine bay or something,somewhere in the vehicle.
Cause SRT-8 is just another trim model whereas SVT used to be a Seperate identity.
and there are actually a bunch of things different on the cars. Its not just "throw intake manifold B on car 2"
Not really,the SRT8's and Charger Daytonas are all limited production special models just like the SVT's were. They are the top of the line models,and while the main structure of the car might be the same as every other one,they get all the upgraded parts like the SVT's did. Engines are different,interior trim is different,suspension,brakes and wheels are all different.....hmmm.....aren't SVT's like that?
I'm not gonna argue,I don't work at Ford,I don't know how they built the cars,but it just doesn't make sense for them to have built them off in a corner while Chrysler can run several models down the same line,and build a base model Magnum wagon with cloth seats,steel rims and a 2.7L V6,and the car behind it can be a Charger SRT8 with all the options. SRT is Chrysler's performance division,so it's no different than SVT is to Ford.
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well I believe that variable assembly line that can run several models at once are a relatively new thing, I know Toyota was the first a few years ago, so at the time the contour was made it might not have been possible to run them at the same time as the regular contours
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I think what you're talking about is completely different cars. Ford definitely could have ran SVTs on the same line as regular Contours and probably did, I haven't heard definite fact what was done.
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sorta off the subject but one of my CVST's has "Road & Track" stamped on the metal plaque that is riveted onto the radiator support... anyone know what the hell that means? Anyone else have that on their car?
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I think what you're talking about is completely different cars. Ford definitely could have ran SVTs on the same line as regular Contours and probably did, I haven't heard definite fact what was done.
I'll say it again ... The SVT Contours were run down the same line , at the same time as all other Contours . They were not made on another line , not off in a corner , not by special hands , not in another facility , etc , etc . Apart from the pre-production CSVT's getting a couple "extra looks" , they were surrounded on the line by all other trim levels of Contours . There is no mystery here .
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Originally posted by spdsk8r:
In 1970, I bought a new 340 Duster off the showroom floor. Couldn't figure out why it was so much faster than other 340 Dusters until two years later when I put a 440 in it. My Duster had the 340 sixpack (from the AAR Cuda) motor with a 4 barrel intake and carb on it.
That is interesting. Aside from the intake and 3 carbs, was there really that much difference in the two 340's? The heads were different but really only as far as valve angle. The valves were the same size AFAIK. Not sure about compression ratio but if it was different, it wasn't much. Maybe rear end ratio had something to do with it being quicker (faster?). I'd sure like to find a six pack motor for my Cuda. 
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Compression was higher, different cam, more efficient valve angle. The power curve was slightly higher, this motor pulled to 7K. Duster ran 13.90's stock with just carb and distributer tuning. That's with 3.55 gears.
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Originally posted by NVMYSVT:
sorta off the subject but one of my CVST's has "Road & Track" stamped on the metal plaque that is riveted onto the radiator support... anyone know what the hell that means? Anyone else have that on their car?
maybe it was used by them, or maybe beat to crap by them. who knows
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Originally posted by Buddy Palumbo:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I think what you're talking about is completely different cars. Ford definitely could have ran SVTs on the same line as regular Contours and probably did, I haven't heard definite fact what was done.
I'll say it again ... The SVT Contours were run down the same line , at the same time as all other Contours . They were not made on another line , not off in a corner , not by special hands , not in another facility , etc , etc . Apart from the pre-production CSVT's getting a couple "extra looks" , they were surrounded on the line by all other trim levels of Contours . There is no mystery here .
Exactly. The multi-model assembly lines are not new. Longbranch in England that produced The Austin Minis ran the standard saloons down the line,as well as all variations of the Mini models including the pickups,panel vans,wagons and convertables......for 40 years.
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Originally posted by Zetec_B:
Originally posted by Buddy Palumbo:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I think what you're talking about is completely different cars. Ford definitely could have ran SVTs on the same line as regular Contours and probably did, I haven't heard definite fact what was done.
I'll say it again ... The SVT Contours were run down the same line , at the same time as all other Contours . They were not made on another line , not off in a corner , not by special hands , not in another facility , etc , etc . Apart from the pre-production CSVT's getting a couple "extra looks" , they were surrounded on the line by all other trim levels of Contours . There is no mystery here .
Exactly. The multi-model assembly lines are not new. Longbranch in England that produced The Austin Minis ran the standard saloons down the line,as well as all variations of the Mini models including the pickups,panel vans,wagons and convertables......for 40 years.
When I worked at the GM plant in Van Nuys, CA, it was common to mix differet models. The Corvair was assembled on the same line as full size Chevies (Impalas and the like) for a few years. When the Camaro was introduced, it also was mixed with full size Chevies for a while. When the Firebird was introduced, it took the place of some of the Camaros. For a while, full sized Chevies were also mixed with Malibus. There was also a while where only Camaros and Firebirds were produced. A nearby plant in Southgate, CA, produced Buicks, Oldsmobiles, and Pontiacs on the same line, and that was when they all used different engines.
Although I never saw the Contour assembly line, I'm certain, from my general assembly line experience, that the Contour SVT was just another car on the same assembly line. It would have been far to expensive to have done it any other way.
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