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Originally posted by Tisby:
Originally posted by phd2be:
They do stiffen the car, which may or may not make it more durable. I haven't had a good chance to really test these bad boys out yet. I'm taking a trip to the mountains this weekend (Mad River, Sugarbush ski area) to give them a good work out.
Make sure you practice a little in a parking lot first. I was talking with a guy over on NCO that almost took out a median when he first took a turn. He said that they made that much of a difference. Granted, that was a couger and I'm not sure of his driving abilities. I'd still rather screw-up in an open parking lot than off and into a ravine.
I've been driving around w/ them for about a month now so I have a good feel for what they are doing. I will have a co-pilot with me (my wife  ) so I'm sure I won't even come close to reaching the limits of the handling. Note to self: find a local auto-cross event to attend. 
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by AliasJerkââ??¢:
Originally posted by ToasterOven:
so what do subframe connectors do, and how are they doing on your car? looks good too.
basically they stiffen the subframe, make it more durable.
The subframe connectors do not even touch the subframes, maybe your thinking of boxing the subframe?
I'll repeat myself... they add weight.
so does a turbo, does that make it not functional?
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Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find. 
much like your weiner.
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More functional then these.
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
More functional then these.
and you would know this how??
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Think about how these are installed and what they are bolted to. Now... think about how the suspension is attached to the body of this particular vehicle.
Any additional torsional rigidity that these may provide is going to be completely negated by the movement of the cradles that the suspension is bolted to. Most cars that make good use of are front engined rear drive cars that can cause twist due to torque loads, we don't have that problem, atleast not in the same fashion as a mustang or camaro.
Inshort to be effective any additional bracing needs to tie directly to the front or rear cradles/subframes.
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
Think about how these are installed and what they are bolted to. Now... think about how the suspension is attached to the body of this particular vehicle.
Any additional torsional rigidity that these may provide is going to be completely negated by the movement of the cradles that the suspension is bolted to. Most cars that make good use of are front engined rear drive cars that can cause twist due to torque loads, we don't have that problem, atleast not in the same fashion as a mustang or camaro.
Inshort to be effective any additional bracing needs to tie directly to the front or rear cradles/subframes.
-Mark
but you agree they do work.
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Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.
much like your weiner.
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Only on a car with extremely stiff suspension.. Even then I would consider them to be of poor design because they don't actually tie into anything. Personally I think you would get a more noticable result out of the Mirko Aluminum rear subframe bushings. (xchang has them on his car and I'm sure he can describe the difference in feel)
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Make sure you practice a little in a parking lot first. I was talking with a guy over on NCO that almost took out a median when he first took a turn. He said that they made that much of a difference. Granted, that was a couger and I'm not sure of his driving abilities. I'd still rather screw-up in an open parking lot than off and into a ravine.
I would chalk that up to stupidity and not the connectors. That or the chassis was twisted when he put them in and now the whole car alignment is off and it handles improperly.
I love my connectors. Ive noticed a nice improvement in the cars handling. If you are worried about weight I hope you dont have a sub, or tools in the trunk, etc. A passenger is 3-4 times the weight of these anyways. BFD. They are worth it.
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weight try 29lbs. ok, maybe 1/2oz for the welds... just tell your girl to lose weight
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
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Originally posted by svtizzle4stizzle:
weight try 29lbs. ok, maybe 1/2oz for the welds...
just tell your girl to lose weight
the only way they could be better is weld in a cross brace connecting the 2, but then your into some extreme crazyness.
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Originally posted by MxRacer:
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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.
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