Even then you go a Gen 1 Sho full suspension with what Tokico/koni's and Eibach/intrax with 22/26 sway bars and Good tires is still behind the curve of a CSVT with Koni and H&R/Eibach/GC's add a 3 liter into the mix and umm ya. I love SHO's but the CSVT will own one with a decent driver on a track like the ones we have in MI