Ok, I forgot to add all taht we have done already. Checked out the vacuum lines, they are ok. the fuel filter is new as of 3000 miles ago, i treated the gas tank a couple tanks ago, spent all sunday working on the thing. Could it maybe be the ECV? thats the only thing we could come up with. Oh yea, it has 48,000 miles on it if that helps at all. I will look for the secondaries linkage and PCV elbow right now and see what I find.