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It will not boot unless the IDE controller almost matches the original. (i.e. earlier model SiS chipset to a new model SiS)
I've been booting up the same hard-drive for the past 6 years on probably 8 different PCs by now almost every one a different MoBo manufacturer; everything ranging from an old Cyrex chip, to T-Birds, to an Athlon64, without ever formatting the HD. And though it has progressed OS' over time, it was never because it needed to. It's been long retired as the primary drive, but it still boots up whenever needed without fail.
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I found the specs for my HD:
9.5 ms average access time (read)
10.5 ms average access time (write)
4.16 ms average latency
and thats basically the same as they are today. A new drive is going to be 8.8ms read and 10ms write. I doubt that is even noticable!
Especially on a Celeron LOL!
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I'm still not sure how an AMD that is 1.8 or 2.0 ghz is faster then a 3.2ghz intel. The steps are shorter in the AMD, but I don't know how another 1.2ghz could not out do that.
The AMD is 64-bit, the Intel is 32-bit.
To put it in as simple terms as possible, you can double the Ghz of the AMD to compare it equally (that's not really true, but for laymen's sake it makes an easier comparison). So the AMD is a 3.6-4.0GHz, and the Intel is 3.2GHz.
If 64-bit is at all a possibility go with it. There's simply no alternative. Not doing it when you can is like putting a Floppy drive in your PC instead of a CD or DVD drive.
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The whole new PC trip started when my room mate (on his celeron LOL) found newegg.com. He was trying to find a nice quality set of speakers for his mother's PC for mother's day. (She listens to her damn beatle's CD all the time lol. And some other new stuff) The speakers she has suck bad, they are basically tweeters in a box.
Either way he showed me newegg.com. So I looked around to see what kind of parts they had. It basically went from there. I came up with the system listed. I see it as basically doubling my CPU speed with faster bus. I have double the ram, and 2 more USB ports.
Not to mention that in 2 or 3 years I can go back and Pick up a dual core P4 and drop it in and add another GB of ram. And probably a higher end video card by that point.
So for a college student thats so-so for cash, I saw it as a real good option. But I figured I'd ask on here because I've see posts before about people building PCs.
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Not to mention that in 2 or 3 years I can go back and Pick up a dual core P4 and drop it in and add another GB of ram. And probably a higher end video card by that point.
Not going 64-bit for a PC that you plan on keeping that long is... not very smart. In 2 or 3 years they won't even be making 32-bit processors anmore (you'd be lucky if they continue for another 12 months), so you won't be able to buy any new processor to put in there.
Also, without a PCI-x slot, you can't buy a high-end graphics card either. They don't even make any high-end cards for the AGP 8x slot that that PC has anymore.
Quite simply that PC would be already outdated in some very significant matters that would make future upgrades a virtual impossibility.
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Okay I'm ready for bed, lol. But one last post.
I saw the part on the 64 vs 32 bit. But I read done the Celeron list and it says it has 64 bit support. So I'm still confused.
But I do get the 64 vs 32 bit part.
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Originally posted by ZeroHour:
yeah I know the hard drive is probably semi slow. I would have to look up online what the seek time is. I know its not horrible though. Plus there is ~400 dollars worth of software on it, if not more.
I'm still not sure how an AMD that is 1.8 or 2.0 ghz is faster then a 3.2ghz intel. The steps are shorter in the AMD, but I don't know how another 1.2ghz could not out do that.
There are three reasons. The first explains why the Celeron is not actually faster than the Sempron 64, despite the advertised clock speed.
1) AMD chips perform more operations per clock cycle than Intel chips. By this alone then, the "speed" of the Sempron 64 and the Celeron are comparable.
The next two reasons are why the Sempron 64 is actually better.
2) The Sempron 64 is (as you can tell by the name) 64-bit. This is a huge plus, even though on 32-bit machines you're not going to notice too much difference.
3) Superior architecture. No exceptions, the CPU architectures designed by AMD during this generation of processors blow the Intel chips out of the water. Not only are they faster, they're also less prone to overheating.
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Originally posted by ZeroHour:
Okay I'm ready for bed, lol. But one last post.
I saw the part on the 64 vs 32 bit. But I read done the Celeron list and it says it has 64 bit support. So I'm still confused.
But I do get the 64 vs 32 bit part.
The "64-bit support" that Intel is referring to is extended memory support. It's a completely different thing.
And to reiterate, since I edited my previous post while you were writing your last one, without a PCI-x slot, you can't buy that high-end graphics card that you want to in the future either. They don't even make any high-end cards for the AGP 8x slot that that PC has anymore. You need a motherboard with a PCI-express slot on it.
Quite simply that PC would be already outdated in some very significant matters that would make future upgrades a virtual impossibility.
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Wow I missed the fact that it didn't have a PCI Express. I just looked for the PCI slot for the card I have now.
I saw the label PCI Express but didn't realize it said none.
but now I am really going to bed. I need to get up in the morning to finish writing my paper.
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Look at this for cheep amd Or this *I noticed someone saying amd is slower, so I thought I would say comparing clock speed only works for similar processors. in other words clock speed for AMD isn't comparable to clock speed for intel* I would also sujest a hard drive. That 20 is bound to give you troubles soon.
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