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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
That BASTID!! I just can't take any more of his LIES and SKULLDUGGERY!!!!
at least hes not a FLIP-FLOPPERer! 
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Originally posted by gilroynewball:
Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
And am I suppose to believe that there was no airplane wreckage found and that every thing burned away..not even a landing gear or anything?  Cause I've seen planes burn to pieces like the concorde but still there is somthing left.. I dont understand.. ?
Same here. Normally, there are pieces left. I'm not denying that they might be small, but not vaporized. It does seem odd. Plus, there's no way a plane of that size hitting 5 light poles could have not done anything major to the plane. If a piece of rubber from a tire hitting the fuel tank of the Concorde that crashed created shockwaves to shake wires off creating a short circuit, how is it that a lightpost can't do that?
EDIT: Thanks, Katabatic. The aforementioned is retracted.
You guys are talkin' about planes in which the pilots were trained & motivated to keep the aircraft in one piece. The pilots of the 9/11 aircraft were out to do quite the opposite. They didn't care if there would be little/nothing remaining of the plane & their targets.
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Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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not only that, but for the umpteenth time... the gov't isn't going to release ANY info that might give a potential attacker any sort of intelligence as to the pentagons structure and fortifications. and that includes ANY pieces of the aircraft that may have survived the impact.
someone could look at those pics and determine all kinds of intelligence as to the construction and security of the building.
using past "excerices" or whatever as evidence for a current situation is simply a red herring and doesn't have any bearing on this particluar situation.
i IMPLORE some of you (pete) who i know are intelligent to think about this rationally and let go of the conspiracy theories.
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Originally posted by Icefury:
I don't expect everyone to agree with me nor am I upset that most of you don't. But for god sakes if your not going to even watch it, let alone make a logical argument backed with reason and supporting facts why you agree or disagree why even bother posting? To ridicule and mock me? Hijack the thread for your own amusement?
I've watched it.
I've been in this debate before.
Fact - Cell phone calls CAN be made from airplanes.
Fact - Plane wreckage WAS recovered from WTC, Pentagon, and PA crash sites.
Let's see some of the other arguments brought forward - why did the buildings collapse? The only people I know who are confused about the collapses have never been to New York nor have seen the ground at WTC pre- or post- 9/11. It was NOT a solid ground foundation. It was a subway station, parking garage, walkway, etc. NOT one mass of concrete. WTC7 was NOT "pulled" as in demo. Support, including FDNY was pulled to avoid further loss of life.
Fact - A CEG'er saw the Pentagon site in person.
We ridicule because this shadow government military operation conspiracy is so contrived and thin that we can see right through it and the mindless drones who think that just because this information is different, it is correct.
These videos offer absolutely no proof of anything, just speculation.
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Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
And am I suppose to believe that there was no airplane wreckage found and that every thing burned away..not even a landing gear or anything? Cause I've seen planes burn to pieces like the concorde but still there is somthing left.. I dont understand.. ?
Goonz, as I stated before, there is a great video on ifilms that should help with this. Its a test with a F-4 running into a concrete wall at speed. The video looks to be done in the 80s buy its quality. Search there for that video and it should help explain it. Sorry I can't remember what the title is.
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Originally posted by We Todd:
Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
And am I suppose to believe that there was no airplane wreckage found and that every thing burned away..not even a landing gear or anything? Cause I've seen planes burn to pieces like the concorde but still there is somthing left.. I dont understand.. ?
Goonz, as I stated before, there is a great video on ifilms that should help with this. Its a test with a F-4 running into a concrete wall at speed. The video looks to be done in the 80s buy its quality. Search there for that video and it should help explain it. Sorry I can't remember what the title is.
yea but theres a difference between an F4 hitting than a 757..I dunno..oh well
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perhaps showing pictures of surving wreckage may give away info but certainly not video footage of an airplane about to turn into a huge fireball followed by tons of smoke. what could that possibly give away?
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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what they arn't airplanes??????
whats the diff other than size and speed.
the same thing can happen even more soo at the insane speed those 757's where traveling 25ft off the ground
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Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
Originally posted by We Todd:
Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
And am I suppose to believe that there was no airplane wreckage found and that every thing burned away..not even a landing gear or anything? Cause I've seen planes burn to pieces like the concorde but still there is somthing left.. I dont understand.. ?
Goonz, as I stated before, there is a great video on ifilms that should help with this. Its a test with a F-4 running into a concrete wall at speed. The video looks to be done in the 80s buy its quality. Search there for that video and it should help explain it. Sorry I can't remember what the title is.
yea but theres a difference between an F4 hitting than a 757..I dunno..oh well
there is, but the same principles apply, also you have to remember, when the Pentagon was designed, it was designed to resist a nuclear blast, IIRC.
Being an airplane buff, I'm sure you've seen the special where the raise the P-38 from under ice in Greenland or Iceland or something. First thye found the B-17..they thought it would be fine, but it was crushed. The P-38 was under the same stresses and was intact. So, if those same physics prinicples apply to those planes, I would think they would tranfer to the F-4/737/757 bodies, thus, I would think that LESS of the commerical airliner would be left and it is probably structurely weaker than a plane designed to land on aircraft carriers.
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Originally posted by We Todd:
also you have to remember, when the Pentagon was designed, it was designed to resist a nuclear blast, IIRC.
wow. if an airplane can mange to poke its way through 3 rings (iirc) then i wonder what nuke could do.  
course, we'd never get to see the video  
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