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Originally posted by Decepticon:
Indeed like ryan says there has to be a need to know.
or right place at right time.
that's what i was saying (need to know) but the right place at the right time explains it  happen to know who shot jfk??  
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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All the JFK stuff should be released pretty soon. Oh, and Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. The real question is who shot J.R.? ARRRGH!!!
Or should I just say J. ARRRRGH!!!
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Originally posted by a troll Aarrrrrrr:
they can parade videos of hussein's dead sons to the iraqi people to prove that they are dead but they cant show their own American citizens a video proving a plane (and what kind) hit the pentagon. especially when there is so much doubt and mistrust floating around out there amongst the citizenry.
Do you really want to deal with the red tape involved in de-classifying any/all of the security footage from one of, if not THE most secure military offices in the country?
And why should they feel the need to convince the lunatic fringe? They'd just say it was a mockup done on the same soundstage as the moon landing.
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To put what I am about to write into perspective, I am what most of you would consider to be a left-wing liberal pinko. However, on September 11, 2001, I was at the Pentagon about 10 minutes after the plane hit. Fire, smoke, and the unmistakable smell of jet fuel burning. At about 2:00 am the next morning, I was coming home from work on I-395 and the smoke from the Pentagon was blowing across the highway. You could still smell the jet fuel, and, sadly, you could also smell something else....
There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the aircraft, with all those unfortunate souls aboard, went into the side of the building, and that the doubters are nuts.
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Originally posted by We Todd:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:
Guess what...Farenheight 9/11 was supposed to be completely factual as well. And we all know, conservative or liberal, for the war or against it, that certain liberties were taken by Mike Moore. Nothing is completely true or factual, those words should not be uttered in any conversation about any government, period.
I haven't even watched THIS video...I will eventually and maybe it will tick me off, but until I they gov't fesses up with WTF actually happened at the pentagon...
You can laugh at me believing this all you want...but unless you have some great explanation as to where the HELL that plane went then I don't want anyone judging me!  
There is a video on ifilms from years ago demonstrating what happens when a plane runs full bore into a concrete wall. It disenigrates (sp?)! The only thing left of the plane was where it did NOT hit the wall. Thats where the plane yet.
Better yet for you conspiracy theorist, where did the people go on those planes?
Why would we pick Saudis to be the 'scapegoats' and not go after them?
If you guys believe that kind of crap, then well, I hope you get your money back for your educations...
It's pretty easy to make up names. There are plenty of people with the same name. Nobody knows everybody.
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I knew in posting this to put my flame suit on. In reading all the posts in opposition to this, not one of you has made an argument on the film from a standpoint of reason and logic coupled with strong supporting facts. Just sweeping dismissals laced with personal flames. With the exception of bishop375, no one in opposition has even claimed to have watched the whole thing.
For those of you who doubt our government is capable of doing such a thing, you obviously have never taken any time to thumb through de-classified FBI/CIA documents. The experiments carried out on the unsuspecting and unwilling civilians of this country will leave you wondering if our elected officials and top military brass have souls at all. Things like poisoning civilian water well's, releasing experimental viruses into subways (results of which are still classified), injecting radioactive material into women and children, mind control experiments involving numerous types of torture carried out on prisoners, mentally handicap, and even children. These are but a few of the crimes against humanity that have been carried out by our government. Now if our government through de-classification can admit to doing things this terrible on it's own citizens, imagine what they do that will NEVER be released.
In a crime a good detective will always ask who stands to benefit and then follow the money for clues. That is what this video has done. Perhaps you could dismiss some of it's presentation individually as coincidence but when you take the numerous inconsistences into account, the gaping holes in the official report, the science in many respects does not add up, and follow the money your left to drawing one irrefutable conclusion. 911 was an insuide job. The official story is enforced not by logic, not by the integrity of the story, but by brute force and a unwillingness by officals to discuss it. The flimsy official story falls apart at nearly every major point. The hoax is bared to all who choose to see.
A closed mind has already made its mind up regardless of the evidence or data presented to it. Its opinion does not change with the flow of incoming data. It is stuck in an ARBITRARY CONCLUSION which results in a FIXED DECISION.
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Originally posted by Icefury:
I knew in posting this to put my flame suit on.
soooooo are you saying you purposely posted this as flamebait?
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Anybody with enough time on their hands can present an arguement that will make a GULLIBLE person believe anything.
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Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
Originally posted by Icefury:
I knew in posting this to put my flame suit on.
soooooo are you saying you purposely posted this as flamebait?
BAN HIM!!!!!
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Originally posted by BSpecialist:
Originally posted by We Todd:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:
Guess what...Farenheight 9/11 was supposed to be completely factual as well. And we all know, conservative or liberal, for the war or against it, that certain liberties were taken by Mike Moore. Nothing is completely true or factual, those words should not be uttered in any conversation about any government, period.
I haven't even watched THIS video...I will eventually and maybe it will tick me off, but until I they gov't fesses up with WTF actually happened at the pentagon...
You can laugh at me believing this all you want...but unless you have some great explanation as to where the HELL that plane went then I don't want anyone judging me!
There is a video on ifilms from years ago demonstrating what happens when a plane runs full bore into a concrete wall. It disenigrates (sp?)! The only thing left of the plane was where it did NOT hit the wall. Thats where the plane yet.
Better yet for you conspiracy theorist, where did the people go on those planes?
Why would we pick Saudis to be the 'scapegoats' and not go after them?
If you guys believe that kind of crap, then well, I hope you get your money back for your educations...
It's pretty easy to make up names. There are plenty of people with the same name. Nobody knows everybody.
Right. Thats why phone calls from the plane were placed, one from a congressman/senators wife IIRC.
Keep pull stuff out of that hat guys...its quite funny.
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