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Originally posted by JaTo:
Fox (Mexico's President) knew what he was doing when he threw a polite fit about how the US was positioning immigration policy; those dollars prop up a not insignificant portion of the Mexican economy...
Speaking of Mexico and immigration policy, ask just about any Mexican what they think of people from El Salvadore or any Central Americans. Mexicans (those in Mexico) don't treat the illegals that enter THEIR southern border too well, to put it nicely. Yet we're supposed to just open up to them.
And just to put it out there, my parents are from Guatemala and came here legally 30 years ago and are citizens. My grandparents also followed the correct path to citizenship. One of my cousins got her citizenship about a year ago.
Also, a worker for one of my friends makes quite a bit of money working on homes. Easily making over 20/hr. He simply does not care to become a citizen. He's making all the money he needs and then some and has plenty left over to send back to relatives. So money is obviously not the reason many illegals don't become citizens. And living in Houston, I'm sure INS offices are readily available.
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over $20 an hour? jeezuss! that's more than half the people in here make!  hell ill sell oranges on the freeway for $20p/h! 
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Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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While it is true that illegal immigrants pay taxes, they also receive more in tax services than they pay in taxes. Therefore, they are a net drain on our society.
I will agree with Sigma that the rules and the process for those we admit legally needs to be simplified to cost both immigrants and taxpayers less money to administer it and to place the requirements within bounds of reason.
However, we need to realize the needs of our nation are very different than they were 80 years ago and more. Our economy and our geographic footprint are mature, there is not the expansion to accomodate the immigration rate there was at that time. Our immigration policies need to be formed in our national best interest. The current limits and standards need to be revisited to ensure they match our needs.
No matter how the laws end up, they need to be enforced not only to prevent people from entering the country illegally, but to intercept and deport people who are here illegally. We need to prosecute the employers who hire illegal immigrants and fine them to an extent where it is in their economic best interest to obey the laws, to override the temptation of cheaper illegal labor. These fines could be used to cover the costs of the enforcement.
All government services and documents need to be solely in English. It is the responsibility of the immigrant to learn the English language.
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Originally posted by 1314:
Speaking of Mexico and immigration policy, ask just about any Mexican what they think of people from El Salvadore or any Central Americans. Mexicans (those in Mexico) don't treat the illegals that enter THEIR southern border too well, to put it nicely. Yet we're supposed to just open up to them.
My point was that Fox wasn't fond of committing political suicide by alienating his voters through any sort of indirect support of measures that would keep American dollars from getting into their pockets.
You point is entirely valid, though; Mexicans get rather "fast and loose" with the way they dog other cultures outside of their own in Central and South America; Costa Rica, for all the wonderful attributes it has, is pretty much the same in that they paste any sort of crime on immigrant Nicaraguans, Panamanians and Hondurans and look down on most anyone that isn't European, American or Tico...
Lots of hypocracy everywhere you look.
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The world did not shut down without illegal aliens today. In my opinion, the Bay Area was better. I went to McDonalds, ordered food in English, they got my order right, and I didn't get hit on my way home by an illegal without insurance.
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What I find funny in my neighborhood (and many others across the nation) is that citizens employ illegal aliens to do their landscaping/lawns, build their homes, wash their cars, hire them as day workers, and do just about any other menial job you can name.
The fact is that 50% of the employers providing jobs for illegal immigrants are ordinary American homeowners. Yet, these same individuals are behind this ideal for this movement. It boggles my mind. The issue isn't the illegal immigrants by any means. They would not come here if there wasn't as much opportunity for them. Blame your fellow Americans if you want to point fingers.
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Let Lou Dobbs get 'em  BTW, I served with people in the Army that were from the UK, Caribbean and MANY Eastern European countries. They did this to become citizens of the US. I find honor in this route and any other honest way of becoming an American.
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I think the protests are great... makes aiming so much easier.
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Originally posted by Dr. Frankenbarge:
I think the protests are great... makes aiming so much easier.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Sucks for LEGAL immigrants like myself. As a result I am now RUSHING to get my citizenship before the INS is flooded with MExican-illegals. Total BS if you ask me. I did it legally - hell I should just flown to TJ and walked across like everyone else, would've saved me thousands of $$$. 
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