Nobody is telling him to plan a "stakeout" or do "combat sweeps" of the perimeter. Basic instruction and skill is what he wants and for every moron that manages to shoot themselves or have a gun turned on them, there are more than just a few people (grannies included) that have managed to take care of themselves quite well with a sidearm when the need arose.

Furthermore, I have yet to hear of the typical low-end burglar that is cocooned in Kevlar outside of a pair that tried to rob a bank in LA a few years back...

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
As a test for the guys that think they are John Wayne, the next time you go to shoot, first run around the range a few times and I mean run as fast as you can, then do 30 jumping jacks, 30 pushups, do not wear hearing protection and have a couple of your buddies yelling in your ears while you shoot. If you can hit the target with a full clip you just might be able to save yourself. What the excercises do is simulate shooting under stress. Also remember the kill shot is normaly the first shot not the last shot.


I do agree with this; doing a knockoff of a CQB course or the like is much better for you than just plinking silouettes at the range.

Having never personally been in a hairy situation, I have to take the advice of others like yourself; by far and away that advice has been "don't bring a knife to what could turn into a gunfight" and a bastarization of the boy-scout motto, which would run something along the lines of "always be prepared and have the advantage".

There's nothing "John Wayne" about being concerned about your well-being and wanting the ability to defend yourself if necessary; there is something completely "Jackie Chan" about expecting a golf club to save your ass in a pinch...


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