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Originally posted by Hydramatic:
Originally posted by jtour:
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Wow that Heffner is SUPER NICE. No Dispute there. However when was the last time the Ford GT won a race series. Not much of a racing pedigree huh? Not saying that racing pedigree is all that matters, but in this case it does play a factor. The GT is too soft to be a race car.
Just a really nice exotic is what it is. It just isn't as "hardcore" as the cars it is was made to emulate. Still really nice. A little overpriced, but nice nonetheless.
One more beef. Why in the heck did Ford put such a common engine in the GT? Where's the exotic part? I know it's beefed up from a "normal" cobra 5.4L, but they could have at least put a 5.0 Cammer with some turbos in it...
Wow.. the ignorance is flowing from that post. I take it you've never been behind the wheel of one have you?
To soft? On average on most closed circuits it will turn quicker lap times then its competitors. (your precious corvette included) As for being overpriced, how do you figure? Its body & chassis are made completely from aluminum, the car is hand built, and shares no structural components with any other ford vehicle. It's not a hopped up base model like the ZO6. In the class of vehicles that its in it is very reasonable priced and within its class the nearest competitor in terms of performance costs over $400k. For what the car is, its a steal.
Common engine? Only thing common is the bore & stroke, it shares nothing with any other modular V8 made by Ford.
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Haha, that twin turbo Ford GT is too soft for a racecar man, he could beat it in his Yaris! Econobox FTW 4 evAr!!! 
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
Originally posted by jtour:
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Wow that Heffner is SUPER NICE. No Dispute there. However when was the last time the Ford GT won a race series. Not much of a racing pedigree huh? Not saying that racing pedigree is all that matters, but in this case it does play a factor. The GT is too soft to be a race car.
Just a really nice exotic is what it is. It just isn't as "hardcore" as the cars it is was made to emulate. Still really nice. A little overpriced, but nice nonetheless.
One more beef. Why in the heck did Ford put such a common engine in the GT? Where's the exotic part? I know it's beefed up from a "normal" cobra 5.4L, but they could have at least put a 5.0 Cammer with some turbos in it...
Wow.. the ignorance is flowing from that post. I take it you've never been behind the wheel of one have you?
To soft? On average on most closed circuits it will turn quicker lap times then its competitors. (your precious corvette included) As for being overpriced, how do you figure? Its body & chassis are made completely from aluminum, the car is hand built, and shares no structural components with any other ford vehicle. It's not a hopped up base model like the ZO6. In the class of vehicles that its in it is very reasonable priced and within its class the nearest competitor in terms of performance costs over $400k. For what the car is, its a steal.
Common engine? Only thing common is the bore & stroke, it shares nothing with any other modular V8 made by Ford.
I take it you HAVE been behind the wheel of one?
AND raced it?
Don't think so.
The C5 Z06 was far from "ordinary" anyway. Haven't you looked at the body at all? The car is a Coupe. Not a Targa, therefore it isn't even on the same line as the normal corvette. Plus the suspension is completely different, the engine is completely different... I could go on and on and on. The only similar element is interior, which even has it's own specific touches, and the Hood. That's about it.
Now I understand ya'll don't like all the C5s I've been harping about, so here is something a little closer to your precious GT.
I think you underestimate the technology that went into making the C6. Check out this website. http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/
It says right on the page,
-"...Second-generation hydroformed steel spaceframe with extruded aluminum subframes."
-"...composite fiberglass body."
Maybe not as nice as the GT's structure, but more than a bargain for the dough. Plus, it doesn't require a blower to make its power, so another plus for throttle response and simplicity. I think you should really reevaluate the Z06 before saying it's a POS.
And that "hopped up base model" is a cam and headers away from being faster than your $150K Pantera wannabe. for about 90K less. Suck it. Ford GT blows in the dollar/performance ratio and you know it.
And the last time I checked, the Ford GT ran a substantially slower lap around Nurburgring than the new Z06. Some race car huh?
What I want to know is why Ford would make the engine in the GT the same bore and stroke, yet want people like me to think it's any different. I admit to not knowing that it was completely different. My bad. I was wrong on that one.
Besides, the Corvette is a better sleeper, and as all of you SVT contour guys know, that is what really counts.
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Originally posted by Hydramatic:
I take it you HAVE been behind the wheel of one?
AND raced it?
Don't think so.
Actually I have had the privledge to drive the Ford GT on BOTH the street and the track. I've even taken the creator of GT4 for laps in one.
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
The C5 Z06 was far from "ordinary" anyway. Haven't you looked at the body at all? The car is a Coupe. Not a Targa, therefore it isn't even on the same line as the normal corvette. Plus the suspension is completely different, the engine is completely different... I could go on and on and on. The only similar element is interior, which even has it's own specific touches, and the Hood. That's about it.
Now I understand ya'll don't like all the C5s I've been harping about, so here is something a little closer to your precious GT.
I think you underestimate the technology that went into making the C6. Check out this website. http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/
It says right on the page,
-"...Second-generation hydroformed steel spaceframe with extruded aluminum subframes."
-"...composite fiberglass body.
Maybe not as nice as the GT's structure, but more than a bargain for the dough. Plus, it doesn't require a blower to make its power, so another plus for throttle response and simplicity. I think you should really reevaluate the Z06 before saying it's a POS.
It still shares the same basic Corvette architecture, it uses larger bore variant of the same GM engine achitecture that it has been using forever. Its just a better version of the base car, Just like a Cobra or an SRT model. I never said the ZO6 wasn't a great car, I'm saying its not in the same league as the Ford GT.
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
And that "hopped up base model" is a cam and headers away from being faster than your $150K Pantera wannabe. for about 90K less. Suck it. Ford GT blows in the dollar/performance ratio and you know it.
Is that so? Here is the top 15 cars & lap times tested by TopGear on the same track by the same driver. I've added the prices for each vehicle tested in USD.
1 Pagani Zonda F 1.18.4 Approx $750k
2 Maserati MC12 1.18.9 Approx $800k
3 Ferrari Enzo 1.19.0 Approx $650k
4 Ariel Atom 1.19.5
5 Porsche Carrera GT 1.19.8 Approx $440k
6 Ascari KZ1 1.20.7 Approx $240k
7 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 1.20.9 Approx $400k
8 Ford GT 1.21.9 Approx $160k
9 Porsche GT3 RS 1.22.3 Approx $160k
10 Ferrari 360 CS 1.22.3 Approx $189k
11 Murcielago 1.23.7 Approx $288k
12 Zonda 1.23.8 Approx $400k
13 Koenigsegg C8S 1.23.9 Approx $480K
14 Sagaris 1.24.6 Approx $90k
15 Tuscan 1.24.8 Approx $85k
Note prices can vary upon destination, options, etc.
Looks like its in some pretty good company for a $160K car...
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
And the last time I checked, the Ford GT ran a substantially slower lap around Nurburgring than the new Z06. Some race car huh?
You should check into that a little further, the ZO6 that ran at the ring was the supercharged "Blue Devil" mule, not a production ZO6.
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
What I want to know is why Ford would make the engine in the GT the same bore and stroke, yet want people like me to think it's any different. I admit to not knowing that it was completely different. My bad. I was wrong on that one.
For the same reason why GM still uses updated variants of its age old small block chevy... its called brand recognition.
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
Besides, the Corvette is a better sleeper, and as all of you SVT contour guys know, that is what really counts.
If you say so...
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
I take it you HAVE been behind the wheel of one?
AND raced it?
Don't think so.
Actually I have had the privledge to drive the Ford GT on BOTH the street and the track. I've even taken the creator of GT4 for laps in one.
Didn't see that one coming.... BURN!!
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Mark Rowe FTW 4eva.....LOL.....dummy did not know where you worked I take it....BURN.....and at the end of the day....when I pull up to Starbucks in my GT....there will not be another one there.....unlike Vettes....dime for 13 of them thank you.....GT OWNS you Chevy boy.....the only thing it has in Common with other Ford products is the Badge...and the fact it rolls on black round things....
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
Originally posted by Hydramatic:
I take it you HAVE been behind the wheel of one?
AND raced it?
Don't think so.
Actually I have had the privledge to drive the Ford GT on BOTH the street and the track. I've even taken the creator of GT4 for laps in one.
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Theres a couple videos of the GT from stage 6 on streetfire from before the TT setup. That shop, and owner, .ives here in my town, and hes killing everything on the streets and track. very wealthy man!!! hes had a nice collection in his garage over the past few years.
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