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Originally posted by skunk:
Hamilton Sundstrand, it used to be called Hamilton Standard when I worked there back in 1989 . I agree with Kim don't rock the boat until P&W has a solid offer, if nothing comes about atleast no one knows .




that is my thought but it is appearent now that the person I interviewed with is now aware of the no hire policy, hence why he asked if I have, and my reply depending on how the definition of solicity turns out will be I don't see the need to notify/obtain Belcans approval since I sought out the job posting on my own. I will see what he says to that, if not I will talk to my manager today to get this straightened out.


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Since you found the job on your own and Pratt didn't come after you there should be no problem and you should say nothing to Belcan until you have the other job. Treat as if Pratt was just another company. If something is brought up about it you have proff you did it on your own through emails. So they can't do anything. Also you are going to another division it isn't like you have had contact with them before. Don't say anything to Belcan it could possibly upset them and result in you losing your job now.


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thanks all for the input, I am going to attempt to eat my lunch now, little streesed at the moment

plan now is to see what my contact says about my responce on I don't see why I need to say anything since I found the job on my own ...


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well the office would not define solicity for me, so this sounds like a fine line to walk ... I sent my interviewer the not saying that I do not see the need for Belcan to be notified or for them to give approval since I sought out the job posting on my own. I didn't get a direct reply to this but I got the HR meeting set up ...

this sucks, since the policy says from here forward you need approval I feel I need to go say something but on 90% of peoples advice I shouldn't say anything ... I mean I feel in the clear because I only learned about this policy yesterday and I had already interviewed the week before, and submitted for the job a month ago ... I have felt sick to my stomach since yesterday morning ..

so the two throughts here are do the right thing or do what is best for me ...


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I think you're already doing the right thing and what's best for you.


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Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
I think you're already doing the right thing and what's best for you.





yeah I feel I am also but I still feel uncomfortable about it too ... well I will see what happens today and deal with the outcome tomorrow ... guess that is all that I can do at the moment since the policy is open to some debate depending on how it is read.


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well it seems that my hands are tired, I can't get an offer until my site management approves it because of this clause in the contract between Belcan and UTC ...


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Darn, I thought they might go that route. They are worried about a legal dispute with them, which could happen. The sad part is you didn't know of such a clause, well since this is the case you may be able to pich it to your company that you didn't know of the clause, that utc didn't approach you, you approuched themm seeking a change in your career for personal reasons. Say your it has nothing to do with them it is just something you want to do for yourself.

your company shouldn't view it has a direct violation of thier policy since utc did not try to steal you from them, which I believe is the bulk of their policy. It is truly a cowinsadental( I know I blew the spelling , but you know what I mean). Utc shouldn't have to worry about the clause because they infact didn't approach you at all.

Also the email came after a the fact and you had this process in place before the email, which is easy to prove, so legally you should be grandfathered. The email should be from that date forward, they didn't say anything about retro active. If you still feel they are wrong and trying to block you, you could take legal action.

It really would be no different if they had no policy, learned of your intensions and created a policy to block your efforts. something to think about. If you stand your ground, and research the facts, your company may approve your move. Hey even if you have to get tough, which is hard to do, stand up for what you believe is right. I wish you the best of luck.


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that is how I feel about this, maybe or may not be a problem is that this isn't a new policy, it is just being reiterated and being inforced now with the new contract, but again I had no previous knowledge of this clause and it isn't in my handbook so I am not in the wrong. Also in fact the email said from this point forward there is to be no contact without approval, and this is why I plan to bring it up today, I was contacted yesterday about them wanting to make an offer and now I have to bring it up since I didn't know about the clause before Tuesday and everything was done before Tuesday, I just received word last night


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