MSRP does not mean sales price new. Likewise price listed on used car lots. Edmunds, KBB are good places to start for closer selling prices.

MS6 Base MSRP = $28,555 Invoice $26,393 minus whatever rebates/dealer cash availible.

Magnum RT entered the market $29,995 MSRP plus options, but base price was raised $750 by end of MY2005. $3k off for employee price plus at least $3k dealer cash availible.

GTO back seat is reserved for people <5'6" as there is no headroom like almost every other GM vehicle.

Has anyone actually sat in the back of any of the vehicles mentioned? Just because a vehicle is 4 doors does not mean 4 6-foot people would be comfortable.

Mini Cooper S actually has good room in the back seat, but PITA to get there and no truck w/ 4 people.

So, Grimes, figure out how tall your passengers are and how often they'll be in the back. I find very few sedans that can comfortably seat an adult behind my when I'm driving. I always have to move the seat up a little.