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look under chassis electrical
then under switches.
then neutral safety switch.


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Originally posted by Me ted:
look under chassis electrical
then under switches.
then neutral safety switch.




Ah ok got it. What about Brapple's suggestion of the cruise control switch? I can't seem to find that.


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How about you check the switches before you replace them. Get a multimeter and put a probe on each connector terminal switch it to ohms and see if you get anything when you hit the switch.
Maybe it isn't starting becuase you screwed up the pats system. See what your securtiy light is doing when you try and start it.


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Originally posted by svtavino:
How about you check the switches before you replace them. Get a multimeter and put a probe on each connector terminal switch it to ohms and see if you get anything when you hit the switch.
Maybe it isn't starting becuase you screwed up the pats system. See what your securtiy light is doing when you try and start it.




I don't think the security light is doing anything strange, but I'll watch it more closely tonight.

Honestly I'm afraid to check the switches... I'm afraid it is not the switches and is wiring or something worse.

The Ford dealer parts guy I spoke with today suggested I short the switch out see if that helps? I was thinking about this as well, but am a little nervous about that. Is that a good idea?

I'll quit being a chicken and get my meter out tonight.


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Those switches are most likely always on switches so when they are pressed they are off. So shorting it would show if it is the switch but I would still check it with the multimeter before you buy more parts. Don't throw parts at it if it isn't the problem.


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If Woody had gone straight to the police, none of this would have happened

This is what you need.

"M/T with cruise control, used for engine emission control and deactivation of speed control during clutch pedal depression"
F8RZ-12B537-AC


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wo0t!
the fisrt one on the list is the one i found.

bill, is there anyway to see the actual part number on the website?


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hehe and i also just noticed that in the list of search words down the bottom of the page, 'escort' is spelled 'escprt'

and f150 isn't listed.

hehe


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Originally posted by mean'tour:
Originally posted by Me ted:
look under chassis electrical
then under switches.
then neutral safety switch.




Ah ok got it. What about Brapple's suggestion of the cruise control switch? I can't seem to find that.




I can see it being a possibility for the two switches is one for cruise and one for the neutral safety. Becasue... For the neutral safety switch to allow the starter to work the clutch needs to be just about on the floor. But... if you have cruise control on you can kick it off by just tapping the clutch pedal.

I'll bet a weeks pay that the two switches in the car are set up like this. For one switch to make its contacts it needs to be pressed in and for the other to make its contacts it needs to be let out.

check for voltage at the starter by testing for voltage at the large wire going to the starter. You should have the battery voltage here all the time. Then put the meter on the smaller wire and with the clutch pressed down turn the key to start the engine and thats when you should see battery voltage at the solenoid wire.

If you don't get power going to the smaller wire then there are probably any one of 3 things wrong, R6 is bad, the neutral safety switch is bad or the start contact in the ignition switch is bad.

I'm beginning to think more and more that becasue these two problems, the starter and the fuel pump seemed to happen almost simultaneously I'm starting to get a gut feeling that you need to invest some effort into testing the ignition switch. Becasue the ignition switch is the one individual part that is part of both systems.


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i do happen to have a spare igintion switch if you want to try it out ... I should be able to grab it Saturday when I am home and could have it with me at the car show sunday ...


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