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Originally posted by Mystique97:
Originally posted by loggerbomb:
i was going to say initial crash was pretty light, but than when he gets smoked by the other car, man that was nasty,
I really think those guys should have ejector seats! Sign of trouble - POP! - out ya go a hundred feet.
RIP mr. dana
Then land on the pavement? If they have parachuts where they gonna land, where the wind takes them or right on the track when no wind, I'd say at least put roll cages on them.
Because parachutes are effective from a hundred foot altitude!  
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the sad thing is that Paul Dana was the guy who didn't even see it coming. The other driver is in stable condition thank god.
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My friend's boyfriend works for Hemelgarn Racing - he called her shortly after the wreck and said that in the process of the crash, Paul lost both of his legs and bled to death before the medical teams had a chance to get to him.
Horrible. Not a good way to go
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Originally posted by Airforce:
the sad thing is that Paul Dana was the guy who didn't even see it coming. The other driver is in stable condition thank god.
I thought Paul was the one driving the 2nd car and ran into the car that had already crashed and stopped.  
Still, not a good thing, and an awful way to go.
I used to work on the Medical Staff (for the spectators, not on the track) at Indianapolis Motor Speedway during May and I know even back in the late 80's when I was doing it how much safety was engineered in to the noses of those cars. For the driver to have lost his legs as reported above means that the impact had to be tremendous (as it looked to be).
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reminds me alot of when the late Ayrton Senna died in that crash at Imola one of the best and more talented dirvers before Schumacher
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Originally posted by The Eurotour:
Originally posted by Mystique97:
Originally posted by loggerbomb:
i was going to say initial crash was pretty light, but than when he gets smoked by the other car, man that was nasty,
I really think those guys should have ejector seats! Sign of trouble - POP! - out ya go a hundred feet.
RIP mr. dana
Then land on the pavement? If they have parachuts where they gonna land, where the wind takes them or right on the track when no wind, I'd say at least put roll cages on them.
Because parachutes are effective from a hundred foot altitude!
well excuse me i dont know the effective range a parachute needs to deploy, but im sure they could do it.
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Originally posted by loggerbomb:
Originally posted by The Eurotour:
Originally posted by Mystique97:
Originally posted by loggerbomb:
i was going to say initial crash was pretty light, but than when he gets smoked by the other car, man that was nasty,
I really think those guys should have ejector seats! Sign of trouble - POP! - out ya go a hundred feet.
RIP mr. dana
Then land on the pavement? If they have parachuts where they gonna land, where the wind takes them or right on the track when no wind, I'd say at least put roll cages on them.
Because parachutes are effective from a hundred foot altitude!
well excuse me i dont know the effective range a parachute needs to deploy, but im sure they could do it.
When your going 220+ mph inches away from other fenderless cars, I dont think theres alot of time to think about "pulling the cord"
With that said this is a terrible accident, and it just shows that no matter how safe these cars get, You hit a parked car at 175 mph. the sheer G force apllied to your body would be unbarable. And when your legs are the first thing to hit(alla open wheeled race car) Chances are if you do survive the actual impact. You are either gonna be a parapaligic(spelling?) like Zinardi or bleed to death from the trauma.
This is a loose loose situation, because there are gonna be alot of people raising there hands and saying "we need to slow down these cars. there just to dangerous" at a time when the sport(open wheeled racing) needs as much help as possible just to stay afloat.
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Originally posted by Kurupt22:
My friend's boyfriend works for Hemelgarn Racing - he called her shortly after the wreck and said that in the process of the crash, Paul lost both of his legs and bled to death before the medical teams had a chance to get to him.
Horrible. Not a good way to go
Oh my, that is absolutley horrible! Signs of Alex Zanardi, except he is still alive...alot more fortunate.
The idea of ejector seats is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Even if they had parachutes they could still land on the track. Yea, lets see a person get hit at 216mph rather than a car. Not cool. This is racing, it will never ever be safe. They have been making alot of progress with soft walls and the Hans device but the only way to lessen the chance of drivers getting hurt is to considerably lower the speeds, and that will never happen because its called racing. Drivers know the chance of something happening to them and they accept it. Bottom line, it'll never be safe.
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Originally posted by loggerbomb:
lol, yeah just his helmet rubs along the asphalt.
With the driver properly strapped into the tub, the roll hoop is designed to ensure his helmet will make minimal, if any, contact with a hard, flat surface with the car inverted.
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Originally posted by dubkatz:
And when your legs are the first thing to hit(alla open wheeled race car) Chances are if you do survive the actual impact. You are either gonna be a parapaligic(spelling?) like Zinardi or bleed to death from the trauma.
Zanardi's (not technically a quadriplegic since his condition is not a result of neurotrauma) accident was quite different, being a side-impact structural intrusion from Tagliani's nose cone that severed both legs instantly (graphically clear looking at photos of the impact). However, he was in danger of bleeding to death during the extrication.
Extreme foot and leg injuries are not particular to open-wheeled chassis, evidenced by Jeremy Dale's horrific crash with Barbazza in 1995 at Road Atlanta in a Spice/Olds sports prototype, which shattered most of his feet and ankles. Since most prototypes now are essentially fendered open-wheeled racers in their basic design (carbon-fibre tub with stressed drivetrains and push- or pull-rod suspensions), they carry similar vulnerabilities for foot and leg injuries in extreme impacts -- it's just less likely to happen due to the extra bodywork and lower speeds involved.
Unfortunately, it's difficult to manage impact energy with a nosecone (reducing g-load to occupant, protecting lower limbs) while making it crash-compatible with other vehicles at funny angles.
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