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He has said that his pads fell off the backing plate and the backing plate was ripped from the mount. He likely has extensive damage to his rotors and then will need replacement.
Have you tried any pentrating oil, like PB blaster. If you stripped the bolts that bad then you did something wrong. When a bolt doesn't brake loss instantly, you stop and evalutate what you are doing. You the heads are completely gone, it needs to go to a shop and have a professional remove them.
Just because you can buy tools doesn't mean you should DIY. DIY can cost more if you have no experience doing mechanical work.
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OH yeah, the rotors need to be changed baaaaaaaaaaaaad. That much I can tell you. The thing is with those bolts, is that I barely put an force on them and they just striped out. We were using PB blaster on them a lot. Actually had a nice stream running down to the drain on the floor. They aren't compleatly striped down, you can get some grip to them yet. After dealing with that first bolt and what he need to do to get it off, we didn't feel like monkeying around with the other ones. would it be wrong to try and heat them up before trying them again?
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Take the caliper ones off first, it will give you more room to get to the bolts. You could slide a 2ft pipe over top of your wrench to give you more leverage. Most importantly, you need to have be sure that the socket is fully engaged on the nut. If your socket is bottoming out, get a long socket. Also, make sure you are using a 6 point socket and not and 12 or 18. A 6 point socket is the only way to get the grab you need, 12's and 18' are thinner sidewalls and can flex.
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Originally posted by elraido:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:
I had a brake pad fall off of an 83 Tercel once... it was very interesting driving home while it was "falling" out.
Made quite a bit of racket until it totally fell out, then the piston fell out w/all the fluid going with it (like mentioned). Junked it after that.
The pad can fall off but the metal backing plate will still be there riding on the rotor. That is probably what he means.
Nope. not just the pad but the metal backing as well. If you guys don't want to believe me that is fine as well, like I have nothing else to do but fabricate stories about my breaks.  And it isn't like it fell out when I was changing them either....cause we changed them in my friends garage and the part was laying out in front of my house. I have only had the car since I first registerd, and that was a year and half ago. And during that time it also sat for about 2 months because I hit a deer, sat another month when I got the buick (which I just sold) so it is more or less like me having the car for one year....which means I am getting around to fixing stuff like that on it. And no, they were not stripped when I first started taking them out. I used a small mirror to see were the heck the bolt was and what type it was. And yes the piston was rubbing up against the rotor, but it never fell out......that turned out to be the metal on metal sound I posted about before. And why am I taking crap from a noob?
Whatever man, I wasn't calling you a liar. It is most common that the pad comes loose from the backing plate. I can only imagine how long it would have to be driven with metal-metal contact for the metal backing plate to finally come out....followed by the piston and whetever else. Seems to me you'd get it checked out before then.
Anyway, most common is the pad comes apart and you get metal to metal contact with the backing plate and the rotor. That is when normal people stop and get it fixed.
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We don't care about normal. We expect common sense and intelligent thinking. Guess not in your case.
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and doesn't common sense tell someone to fix it when the can afford it. Just didn't think they were THAT bad...car stopped, no sounds, no vibration, nothing to indicate there was anything majorly wrong. And I was planning on getting rid of it before I had to sink money into them...cause I did know they did need to be changed soon, just not as soon as I thought. Neglect on my part, yes. I can adimt that. And those seem like rather harsh words coming from an moderator....expect something like that out of steda.
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No sound or pedal problems? Highly unlikely! That [censored] should have shimmied like a coin operated motel bed. It's not cheaper when you end having replace more parts than the original maintenance called for, and having to pay a professional to not only repair the problem but fix the bigger one you have. At the very least you should have hooked up with a true knowledgable car guys and paid him in beer to watch over you.
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I did have my g.f's dad look over them before I started. He is a heavy equipment mechanic. And I do sware on little kittens lives that there were no problems before that besides being able to look at it and go, that needs to be replaced sometime soon. Even after putting the new caliper and pad on, it feels like it did before the grinding started. It didn't pull either way and no sounds and no vibrations. And I did put 40K miles on the car since I got it (year and half ago) but most of that was going between college and home every weekend---600 miles round trip and not a lot of braking. The only "major" problem that had after all this was that I just decided to replace the caliper...and that was only $48.
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Originally posted by elraido:
and doesn't common sense tell someone to fix it when the can afford it. Just didn't think they were THAT bad...car stopped, no sounds, no vibration, nothing to indicate there was anything majorly wrong. And I was planning on getting rid of it before I had to sink money into them...cause I did know they did need to be changed soon, just not as soon as I thought. Neglect on my part, yes. I can adimt that. And those seem like rather harsh words coming from an moderator....expect something like that out of steda.
Yeah common sense tells someone to fix it before it gets too bad. If you don't know (or just decided not to) how to look at the pads and tell you need new ones, then you should have someone that knows what they're doing work on your car (even if it's just 2800lb stripped out).Atleast you admit neglect.
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