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Originally posted by warmonger:
It is a good option for someone with a high power car, LIKE YOURS
Haha.. you never cease to make me laugh. I WUB YOU MAN! LOLOLOL
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I like to wear dresses and use binoculars to watch grandmas across the street.
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...for the masses who spout bunk on the FDR ratio you
should/should not have on a 3.0 V6. Since around 99/2000 ALL UK & Europe V6 Mondeos/Cougars have the ZETEC 3.82 as standard in 2.5 V6 MTX75's...period! The only MTX's that used the 'low' 4.06 ratio are the USA V6 MTX's......
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I'm yet to ride/drive in a Contour with a N/A 3L, with the Zetec FD. I don't feel that the 4.06 FD proposes much of a problem with traction, or fuel efficiency. I average 23-24mpg with city/highway mix, and am around 27-28mpg on the highway. I don't think it's a matter of which FD the 3.0L should come with, but is more of a matter of preference. I'll sacrifice 1-2mpg for better acceleration, personally.
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
I'll sacrifice 1-2mpg for better acceleration, personally.
Mark
i had all the acceleration i needed with the hybrid, the zetec FD ratio woulda made it better IMO.
with the turbo ill have way more than i need and the zetec FD will be a must IMO
Russell
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I have a 2.5 with a 75 shot...and i was personally thinking about going with the 4.5 final drive...and some sticky tires of course! 
1999 Cougar V6 MTX
SVT UIM/LIM/65mm TB, I/H/E, Fidanza/SPEC III/Torsen, Koni/GC's, 19" Icon wheels w/ Pirelli rubber, NX Wet Kit
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Originally posted by 99cougar:
I have a 2.5 with a 75 shot...and i was personally thinking about going with the 4.5 final drive...and some sticky tires of course!
3.0L + 100 shot + 4.06 FD + sticky tires = no problems at all. 1st gear will spin if I hammer down to quickly, but once it's hooked from the launch, I can bury the go-pedal, and it's pure acceleration. Bang 2nd gear and it pulls forward with no spin. I must have a freak car. 
Mark
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The tires i have on my 19's must suck then! Cause when i hit 2nd with the 75 shot...all it does is spin those big heavy biotches over until i hit 3rd! lol
EDIT: BTW...i am still in love with your bottle heater!
Last edited by 99cougar; 03/07/06 03:53 AM.
1999 Cougar V6 MTX
SVT UIM/LIM/65mm TB, I/H/E, Fidanza/SPEC III/Torsen, Koni/GC's, 19" Icon wheels w/ Pirelli rubber, NX Wet Kit
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Originally posted by 99cougar:
EDIT: BTW...i am still in love with your bottle heater!
Awesome! Glad it worked out for ya!
Mark
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
I'm yet to ride/drive in a Contour with a N/A 3L, with the Zetec FD. I don't feel that the 4.06 FD proposes much of a problem with traction, or fuel efficiency. I average 23-24mpg with city/highway mix, and am around 27-28mpg on the highway. I don't think it's a matter of which FD the 3.0L should come with, but is more of a matter of preference. I'll sacrifice 1-2mpg for better acceleration, personally.
Mark
Yeah, despite the fact that the 3.83 is used exclusively now, I can't imagine the need to change if you already have it other than as I was stating above.
Why INDEED did Ford feel the need to use two separate FD's when one would have been much simpler and cheaper?
I'm guessing as they were decontenting usefull things out of the platform they also figured out that one size fits all IS cheaper. So of course that means that either the first design philosophies are wrong, or the later ones are...they can't have their cake and eat it too. If all else is equal and I were tooling around in a 2.5L, I'm taking the gears that give better acceleration, even if only slight.
In my 3L the 4.06 was just on the border of traction with newer/better tires. It made it a drivers game that I found I could easily live with.
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well a little update
i purchased a 12ton shop press for $150 shipped
so far i pressed off the pinion gear with no problem at all.
these transmissions are accually pretty easy to work on!
ima fool around with my donor zetec trans a bit and i may install new syncros in my good tranny just because its apart.
im going to check all endplay and shim where needed (with the help of my neighbor whos an experenced machinist) and im even gonna check the torsen install and see if it does need shimmed after all.
ive got about $350 invested for the zetec FD ratio part of my trans project. $150 for zetec tranny, $150 for press, and $50 for the bearing splitter i needed to rip apart the shafts.
those total costs right there are less than sending to terry, not to mention im now equiped to do alot more things in my little shop. im also learning alot as i go along. i will also use the press for rebuilding outdrives on boats this summer and all kinds of other press work, as no shop around here has a press (including where i work)
ill keep everyone updated and ill be sure to write a how-to with plenty of pictures for those who are brave enough to try this themselves
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