Thanks for the info...it is a V6 car, automatic.
I was debating if I was going to have to drag out my engine hoist and lift the engine up a couple inches...I hate to say it, but it's been in the single digits, and it has not been been a major concern, just a pet-peave of mine.
My driveway looks like the exxon valdez thing in alaska from my explorer, planning on power cleaning it this spring.
if I am going to have to unbolt the Y pipe, I think I might as well replace it, as the flexible coupler is unraveling badly {let the cussing begin, about exhaust

work}.
LOL, just got a feeling, this one will snowball, and I'll end up replacing some other stuff that I should just leave alone.
Sorry for the rambling, thanks for the help
Andrew