Okay now i've done my reading...so the cars have the major issue of hooking up and take a skillful drive to make that possiable which is why their off the line times 0 to whatever typical are ruff....but a rolling start and or on high way puch at 40 and and go are a backbreaker....so lets say random that the power that a SVT pimped 3L with turbo could likely crush the other typical rice burners out there if they want to go at it rolling but not at a red light...also considering that as i said before alot of the faster cars like the WRX(STI) and Lancer(EVO) are fast off the line thanks to all wheel drive but lose at top end....perhaps someone can put a point to what im saying but the cars that have been a 3L and turbos must be pretty awesome in second gear when you smash the pedal.